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816442 2009-10-03 09:07:00 Telecom gave me one of these for agreeing to stay with them for a 2 year period. I wasn't planning on leaving them anyway, and couldn't see the point changing as my service and dealings with them have always been excellent.

At present I use a D-Link 504G NAT Router, which gives good security and feeds the six computers on my home/business network. Anyway, I thought the Thomson modem was wireless only so shoved it under my desk, but ADSL2 is available here so I got it out and took a look at it today and discovered it has ethernet connections as well. I've read the manual but I'm unclear on a few things so i'm hoping a current user can give me some answers.

Firstly, are these modems reliable? I've not read any gripes on PF1 so I'm assuming it will be at least as good as the D-Link.

Secondly, and please excuse my ignorance, but is this also a NAT router? I've read the PDF manual but it is fairly basic and doesn't seem to answer that question, or if it does, it is in terminology that I don't recognise.

Any help\advice\user experience would be appreciated.
Cheers

Billy 8-{) :confused:
Billy T (70)
816443 2009-10-03 09:23:00 |Security
The THOMSON firewall guarantees users the ultimate level
in network security. Through integration with Hyper-NAT, the
firewall leverages all the ALGs provided in the Hyper-NAT
context to minimize undesired service impact.
From here
www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com
Dont know about reliability, not using one :)
feersumendjinn (64)
816444 2009-10-03 18:28:00 BT
I have been using the THOMSON ST585v6 for some time and without a problem.
There are two manuals available; one with the standard futures and one with CLI(command line interface) if you like advanced features. There is also a Speedtouch forum.
If you like more info let me know.
notechyet (4479)
816445 2009-10-03 21:03:00 They are FAR more reliable than the likes of the D-Link, however not as reliable as other routers for pumping VoIP / torrent data across them.

Yes, all "router" ADSL modems technically do NAT (Network Address Translation is AFAIK in a nutshell what allows more than 1 device to be behind it), and this also allows port-forwarding.

To be honest, if you're after a *truly* reliable device for around the home or small office and were going to be actually buying one, I'd recommend the NB6Plus4WN from NetComm. They're awesome little devices that are rock solid, with quite a nice feature set, only lacking in the QoS department.
If you need QoS (doubtful) then something like an AM300 in Half-bridge to a WRT54GL running Tomato will be *the* most reliable device ever, and have more features than you can shake a stick at...

...but I digress, and the short answer to your question:
Yes, it'll do all you want, and should be better than the D-Link. The Web Interface is a lil confusing, but it's still good.
Chilling_Silence (9)
816446 2009-10-04 08:38:00 There are two manuals available; one with the standard futures and one with CLI(command line interface) if you like advanced features. There is also a Speedtouch forum.

I'm pleased to know that I won't be stepping backwards here, so I'll go ahead with the installation next weekend when I don't have to be on line as much.

I'd like URLs for the CLI manual and the Speedtouch site too please.

Jeez! When I get my new business computer I'll really be stepping into the future. Haven't decided what OS to use yet, I've got new copies of XP Professional here, and from what I've read I should skip Vista, but Windows 7 has yet to mature. I'm going to need to run some virtual machines too as I have instruments that require DOS 6.11, some that only work properly on Win 3.11, and other stuff that really needs W95/98/ME but I've been compromising on W2000 in a half-arsed sort of fashion.

Oh yeah, I'm going to need serial and parallel ports too, here's hoping the hardware is still available. USB to serial/parallel simply don't work for some reason, but maybe a guru could sort that out.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :waughh:
Billy T (70)
816447 2009-10-04 18:16:00 Yeah get Win7 Professional / Ultimate, you'll be *very* impressed with XP-Mode :)

Those sort of ports *are* available, but good luck finding any sort of machine that comes with Win98 / Win2K drivers, that's sooo last-decade ;)

Is it *all* USB -> Serial adapters that don't work?
Something like this ought to: pbtech.co.nz
Chilling_Silence (9)
816448 2009-10-04 19:46:00 I'm pleased to know that I won't be stepping backwards here, so I'll go ahead with the installation next weekend when I don't have to be on line as much.

I'd like URLs for the CLI manual and the Speedtouch site too please.

Jeez! When I get my new business computer I'll really be stepping into the future. Haven't decided what OS to use yet, I've got new copies of XP Professional here, and from what I've read I should skip Vista, but Windows 7 has yet to mature. I'm going to need to run some virtual machines too as I have instruments that require DOS 6.11, some that only work properly on Win 3.11, and other stuff that really needs W95/98/ME but I've been compromising on W2000 in a half-arsed sort of fashion.

Oh yeah, I'm going to need serial and parallel ports too, here's hoping the hardware is still available. USB to serial/parallel simply don't work for some reason, but maybe a guru could sort that out.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :waughh:
I sent a PM
and here the link to the forum;www.speedtouch.net.nz
notechyet (4479)
816449 2009-10-05 02:06:00 I got a Thomson under the same deal late last year. Fine for a short while but eventually started dropping out. Endless hunt for more information on the internet, much of it from the UK including a lot of data not supplied with the package from Telecom,, and while Telecom tried to offer fix advice eventually agreed to replace it. It too dropped out a couple of times. I came to a conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that the Thomson will overheat and cause problems.

I bit the bullet, went (expensively) for the Linksys Ultra N ADSL2 Gateway and installed that. It has not missed a beat in the last 6 months. I would have to recommend it.
leonidas5 (2306)
816450 2009-10-05 02:28:00 The WAG160N are crap ... they've got known issues with VoIP and torrents and fall over regularly ;) It's Linksys worst router, ever :( Chilling_Silence (9)
816451 2009-10-05 08:35:00 They also seem to suffer from overheating and lockup. linw (53)
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