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Thread ID: 91762	2008-07-18 00:18:00	Censorship	johcar (6283)	PC World Chat

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689966	2008-07-18 20:20:00	I am all for it as long as they don't start blocking my other sites. will we see FACT asking for them to block bit-torrent sites? will we see labour govt asking them to block the act website? will we see stuff.co.nz asking them to block nzherald?? I have no problem with them blocking child porn, as long as they dont start thinking that they know whats best for all of us or taking requests from anyone with $$ Has anybody asked Telstra Clear to do this - or offered them money? They are not acting on the basis of political expediency and they are certainly not acting in the interests of profit. They are taking steps to ensure their service is not used to facilitate one of the most abhorrent activities that takes place in the world.	Deane F (8204)
689967	2008-07-18 22:55:00	They are taking steps to ensure their service is not used to facilitate one of the most abhorrent activities that takes place in the world. I am have no problem with them blocking this kind of stuff. my problem is will they stay strong when asked to block other things. in the past they could have said that they dont have filtering and so cant filter anything. now everyone know they can do blocking, they do have filters. all thats needs to happend now is for someone to ask.... once you draw a line... that line can be moved....	robsonde (120)
689968	2008-07-19 01:57:00	Will be interesting to see how many TC clients will suddenly change providers!!!??? The internet is evolving, censorship wont work so well soon. Its pretty damn easy to circumvent such blocking, i recently came to live in NZ, but in my former home even torrent sites and p2p was starting to be blocked and was hard to find. But simply using Tor, Freenet or something like JanusVM means you can carry on doing what you like and your isp just sees a pile of encrypted data and the sites just see some foreign web IP. Sure its a great move to stop at least some of the people that might find such sites by luck and i commend TC for the effort. But sadly the real sickos out there are not stupid these days and will still have as much access to that junk as they did before, they will just have to tweak some things to get there. I mean even in radical China behind the great firewall, many many Chinese users can be found on Freenet and other darknets etc without any problems, so if China cant stop it, then what chance has the world? I speak as a user that often uses such measures for my torrent activity, everything that goes in out out my Router is encrypted and TC wouldnt even know if i was looking at google or yahoo... But all that said, it is a great start in the right direction to at least attempt to rid the net of the filth! :thumbs: Just leave torrents alone....	Rentaghost (13978)
689969	2008-07-19 16:54:00	From what that says it seems TelstraClear thought the idea up themselves, nothing about anyone telling them to do it. It's a good idea for what they're blocking, but like everyone else I'm also paranoid that it could be the first step down a slippery slope of blocking all sorts of things that they think should be blocked But then again, if you want something, you can always get it somehow, no matter how much it's blocked. I wouldn't mind them blocking phishing sites too (and maybe performing DoS attacks on them at the same time) though	Agent_24 (57)
689970	2008-07-20 12:35:00	They are not acting on the basis of political expediency and they are certainly not acting in the interests of profit. since when did a company not act in the interests of profit? this is a PR stunt to improve public perception of TC as a responsible entity. meanwhile, it does set them up nicely for further censorship of the net, which could be directly profit driven. The internet is evolving, censorship wont work so well soon. Its pretty damn easy to circumvent such blocking... +1 whatever they block it can be circumvented, so isn't a magical cure by any means. I wouldn't mind them blocking phishing sites too (and maybe performing DoS attacks on them at the same time) though legal issues there with the DOS, and what if they get it wrong? infact, i wouldn't be surprised if they accidentally (or "accidentally") blovked an innocent site every now and then.	motorbyclist (188)
689971	2008-07-21 02:21:00	legal issues there with the DOS, and what if they get it wrong? Yeah that was sort of a joke, but it would still be funny to see the dodgy sites getting blasted for once Maybe we could write a program to do this, aka DDoS@Home which (when millions of PCs are running it) has the ability to take down phishing sites (pretty obvious how it would work) :lol:	Agent_24 (57)
689972	2008-07-21 07:25:00	like a voluntary ddos that where all participants are knowingly taking part? like exactly what happens anyway whenever a small site is mentioned/linked to on a popular blog/website	motorbyclist (188)
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