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Thread ID: 103704	2009-10-03 19:36:00	Site incompatible with IE6	johcar (6283)	Press F1

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816475	2009-10-04 03:35:00	The easiest option would probaly be addin a bit of code that spits out a big fat you suck buddy, about time you updated your web browser when they load the page Slowly but surely people might spend 2minutes of their time updating	hueybot3000 (3646)
816476	2009-10-04 04:02:00	Ensuring IE6 compatibility is more than adding a wee bit of code. I designed a website for someone recently and they expressly told me that it had to be IE6 compatible because of the kind of visitors they were expecting. Even though I designed with that in mind, it still took significant extra time to actually get AJAX and CSS etc working properly with its ridiculous rendering engine. I almost pulled my hair out. Personally, for my own sites I don't even test with IE6 anymore. The only way to force people to upgrade is to stop wasting hours of development time and money on ensuring IE6 compatibility. If 15% of users don't see the site properly, that's their issue. In this case it sounds like you have a higher than average number of IE6 users though. Did the developer know this when the site was being designed? How much did he pay? Was browser compatibility discussed? What did the contract expressly require of the developer? These are all things that would need to be considered. Agree with all you say. I wasn't party to the discussions, or I would have been quite specific - I don't know whether compatibility was even discussed (but the developer should have said something. at least!). I think he paid about $3K, including some graphic design work for both the site and some business cards as well as the site itself. The easiest option would probaly be addin a bit of code that spits out a big fat you suck buddy, about time you updated your web browser when they load the page Slowly but surely people might spend 2minutes of their time updating Love it - I have seen it done, but not on a corporate-aligned site. In my experience, most corporates have a very conservative attitude to updating IE. Most have to be beaten with a heavy stick to get them underway even considering it.	johcar (6283)
816477	2009-10-04 04:05:00	I think he paid about $3K, including some graphic design work for both the site and some business cards as well as the site itself Wow, that seems a little steep, or maybe im too cheap :annoyed:	hueybot3000 (3646)
816478	2009-10-04 05:08:00	Are you willing to name and shame the company concerned johcar? On another note, unfortunately IE6 is unavoidable in some situations - some companies are stuck using legacy web applications which are only compatible with IE6 so can't upgrade.	somebody (208)
816479	2009-10-04 07:09:00	It must be a frustrating position to be in, this has definitely got me scratching my head but I will win	hueybot3000 (3646)
816480	2009-10-04 07:53:00	Are you willing to name and shame the company concerned johcar? On another note, unfortunately IE6 is unavoidable in some situations - some companies are stuck using legacy web applications which are only compatible with IE6 so can't upgrade. I came across something today which may be applicable or maybe not. A fresh install of Win XP home 32 bit. Then she wanted me to install a 2002 version of the Works Suite which comes with Word as well. On 4 CDs. During installation I was told that several other items would be installed in order for the software to operate. One of the items involved was IE 5.5....... There was no option to not install said software...... I went ahead and did the installation anyway and all of Works version 6 was available for use apart from Word. Spreadsheet, Database etc worked as expected. Also the only Word processor mentioned was word but it simply would not open. The solution was to use Open Office instead.	Sweep (90)
816481	2009-10-04 07:58:00	I came across something today which may be applicable or maybe not. A fresh install of Win XP home 32 bit. Then she wanted me to install a 2002 version of the Works Suite which comes with Word as well. On 4 CDs. During installation I was told that several other items would be installed in order for the software to operate. One of the items involved was IE 5.5....... There was no option to not install said software...... I went ahead and did the installation anyway and all of Works version 6 was available for use apart from Word. Spreadsheet, Database etc worked as expected. Also the only Word processor mentioned was word but it simply would not open. The solution was to use Open Office instead. What Works suite comes with Word?	the_bogan (9949)
816482	2009-10-04 08:15:00	What Works suite comes with Word? The very elderly 2002 version distributed by the well known infamous PC Company. Included Money 2002, Encarta 2002 and other assorted bits or bytes. In the event you disbelieve I can go back and pick up the 4 cds and take photos thereof and then return same to the owner. Word was on the packaging and also on the cd1 of 4.	Sweep (90)
816483	2009-10-04 08:50:00	Agree with all you say. I wasn't party to the discussions, or I would have been quite specific - I don't know whether compatibility was even discussed (but the developer should have said something. at least!). I think he paid about $3K, including some graphic design work for both the site and some business cards as well as the site itself. Given the simplicity of the site, at that price I would expect it to be IE6 compatible. The graphics work isn't even that good to be honest. When you said cheap I was thinking a few hundred dollars. I would demand they fix the compatibility issues at least. :rolleyes:	maccrazy (6741)
816484	2009-10-04 09:11:00	Are you willing to name and shame the company concerned johcar? On another note, unfortunately IE6 is unavoidable in some situations - some companies are stuck using legacy web applications which are only compatible with IE6 so can't upgrade. Happy to name and shame: Brandstudio - they have a website (the obvious one), but I'm not going to post it here and give them publicity in any form. They would not answer their phone or return calls (once the job was underway) and were hopeless to try to communicate with. Deadlines whizzed past like deadlines whizzing past.... Given the simplicity of the site, at that price I would expect it to be IE6 compatible. The graphics work isn't even that good to be honest. When you said cheap I was thinking a few hundred dollars. I would demand they fix the compatibility issues at least. :rolleyes: I may have overstated the cost - may have been closer to half that. You're right. All the site is is a web presence to inform browsers what the business does and has a portal to the business-end on the home page. Not difficult to build if that's is what you do for a living. If it hadn't been for the graphics (which my mate is happy with), I could probably have knocked something half-decent up myself (but not in PHP!). Given the lack of cooperation the first time, my mate is not willing to go back to them. He's trying to fix it himself - he's not technical and is cash-strapped, so is looking for a cheap option. So I thought the best place to ask for help was this forum, with its wealth of knowledge and friendly contributors!! :D	johcar (6283)
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