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Thread ID: 103949	2009-10-11 22:00:00	Any OpenOffice.org Users out there?	Yorick (8120)	Press F1

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819478	2009-10-12 07:31:00	Office 2007 can turn a word file into a PDF. Will also export to an ODT file as well.	Sweep (90)
819479	2009-10-12 07:33:00	Good product, looking forward to OOo 4, it's going really well only bugbear is how much RAM it gobbles up if it's running on startup . You may be interested to have a look at the Renaissance project, for a look at some of the discussions as to where we're headed . . services . openoffice . org/wiki/Renaissance" target="_blank">wiki . services . openoffice . org	Yorick (8120)
819480	2009-10-12 07:34:00	Egads Yorick, is that a skull I see?? Downloading OOo now, thanks. PJ	Poppa John (284)
819481	2009-10-12 07:43:00	I tried those links listed above. Just got: Access denied; you may be trying to access this site from an address that does not correctly resolve to a .nz hostname Using Telstraclear cable if that helps. Going to download.openoffice.org worked okay though.	the_bogan (9949)
819482	2009-10-12 07:45:00	Office 2007 can turn a word file into a PDF. There are lots of programmes that create PDFs, I was talking about PDF forms. That's a form that you create in OOo, the receiver can open it in Acrobat Reader and then fill in fields that you designate. It also can have radio button form elements and check boxes. Other than OOo only Adobe Acrobat can do that. OOo can also edit PDFs, properly created ones that is, another thing that MSO can't do. Will also export to an ODT file as well. At this stage only export, OOo uses "save as" for foreign file formats it can natively edit and export for others. It's a good exercise to save a document in OOo to MS file format such as doc and then export a file to ODF in MSO and see which one translates to the other best. It should in fact be the MSO document because the OOo file format specification is fully open, something that isn't the case for MSO file formats except for rtf. However, I suspect you'll find that OOo does better. (edit) I forgot to add that MSO 14 will handle ODF natively. ie "Save as". But only because MS was forced to by the European Union	Yorick (8120)
819483	2009-10-12 07:48:00	Egads Yorick, is that a skull I see?? Downloading OOo now, thanks. PJ No skull, just a lack of hair, the gene showed itself at a young age, hence the nick. :)	Yorick (8120)
819484	2009-10-12 08:04:00	Nice, this new version does work with those .txt files at last. One gripe though. I have to open windows explorer, right click them and open with calc. If I select open, within calc, it opens the files with Writer. Is there any way around that? Also, with Excel, I'm used to hitting End, then an arrow key to get in the direction I go. Is there a similar function in Calc?	the_bogan (9949)
819485	2009-10-12 08:09:00	I have used open office at home ever since MS superseded the last decent version of MS works - version 4.5. Actually Works was seriously underrated. It was kept an orphan by sticking with a lonely file format. I had an interesting experience not so long ago with Works that was being used by a client. She was a fan of the Works Database and when the organisation she works for, migrated to OOo she was concerned about a lot of mission critical data that was in her Works Database. I must admit I approached it with a little trepidation having had to deal with Migrating Access databases. However on investigating I found Works exported to dbase which OOo handles natively. Easy. So yes Works had a lot of things going for it as a simple easy to use Office suite, just too bad about the word processor and spreadsheet file formats.	Yorick (8120)
819486	2009-10-12 08:32:00	Nice, this new version does work with those . txt files at last . One gripe though . I have to open windows explorer, right click them and open with calc . If I select open, within calc, it opens the files with Writer . Is there any way around that? Change the file extension from . txt to . csv and then open with Calc . A window will popup and ask what sort of delimiter . A delimiter is usually either a comma or a space or a colon and carriage returns should hold . Open the txt file in Notepad and see which of the above is between the words that would be in adjacent cells when in a spreadsheet . Also, with Excel, I'm used to hitting End, then an arrow key to get in the direction I go . Is there a similar function in Calc? Not sure exactly what you're after but: Hitting "End" will take you to the cell in the last occupied column in a row . The column has to have at least one cell with data in it . Enter takes you down one cell in a column Tab takes you right one cell Ctrl+end will take you to the bottom cell of the last column Using the arrow keys will move one cell at a time in whatever direction Holding the Ctrl button down and using the arrows moves you to the next cell that has data in it . In other words it will skip the empty cells . Hope that helps Cheers Graham	Yorick (8120)
819487	2009-10-12 08:46:00	I have OO as well as an older version of Office (2000 I think) I still have a few OO based text files floating in my computer somewhere and I tried twiddling with the PDF import extension from Sun. Needs a lot of work. Inkscape did what I needed. The PDF import extension works in a very specific way. It's efficacy is dependent on how the PDF was created. For instance a while ago I got some forms from Ministry of Social Development. They were obviously scans of forms that were then put into a PDF as an image. Not a lot you can do about that. If the document has been created correctly, with embedded fonts then the import extension will work fine and simply treats each line of text as a section. A good example of properly created documents are those that come from the IRD. Fonts embedded, good layout done simply. The PDF export side of things is fine. It is still the best way to send a document to someone, who doesn't need to edit it, but the sender needs to know that it will display exactly as produced and intended.	Yorick (8120)
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