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Thread ID: 103949	2009-10-11 22:00:00	Any OpenOffice.org Users out there?	Yorick (8120)	Press F1

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819598	2009-12-09 19:06:00	But I will add one last comment: I and others have previously said theres nothing wrong with Open Office, its a good program. Any way, people have said their bits, please refer to posts 137, 146, 149 AND the most IMPORTANT one post 147 from the Moderator -- Jen has spoken and given guide lines --Any one who ignores them faces the possibility of further actions. If the moderators decide some thread or person is carrying on against the forum rules they will act.	wainuitech (129)
819599	2009-12-10 05:32:00	I beleive that you made the first post in this thread to find out how many users of Open Office were out there so you said. Then you started the help thread which only pushes the product in my opinion. Any comment I make about OOo is going have some sort of promo effect, but at the end of the day there is still (as iterated in Rule 8) no personal gain and no likliehood of personal gain. Therefore there is no breaking of the rules.	Yorick (8120)
819600	2009-12-10 09:04:00	Any comment I make about OOo is going have some sort of promo effect, but at the end of the day there is still (as iterated in Rule 8) no personal gain and no likliehood of personal gain. Therefore there is no breaking of the rules. That would only be a case if it was worded to promote. There are thousands of answers to thousands of questions and no sign of promoting. Heres an real simple example using MS Office (only because I know how to use excell), I'm not 100% sure about Calc because its been a while since I have used Open Office Calc. (I think in Open Office there is another step, clicking some tick or something) Anyway the example, some one asks this: Question: In a spread sheet - if I have a row of figures and want the total sum of that row how would you do it. The amounts to be added are in cells A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 ?? Answer: To add all cells to get a total - select A1 hold down the shift Key, select any cell below A5 say A7, this will select all cells between A1 -A7 - Next click the Sum Symbol in the tool bar and the total of the selected cells will be added in A7. There you go , an answer and not one bit of promoting - its simply being careful as to what you put - no real brainer. Edited: In other words write the answer as if you were doing it yourself and stating steps.	wainuitech (129)
819601	2009-12-10 09:41:00	Please add to above -- It can be done, and you have proved it-- Please read post 86 & 87 & 90 ( page 9) - question was answered expertly as it should be. :D Now wasn't that easy :p	wainuitech (129)
819602	2009-12-10 10:53:00	There you go , an answer and not one bit of promoting - its simply being careful as to what you put - no real brainer. Edited: In other words write the answer as if you were doing it yourself and stating steps. You are still valiantly avoiding the real point..... I'll put it in bold letters....... "There is NO personal gain!" a critical factor in Rule 8	Yorick (8120)
819603	2009-12-10 18:31:00	I think we are just going around and around and around here over the same points. Let's just move on now. :thanks	Jen (38)
819604	2009-12-10 18:33:00	For God’s sake, let’s let the Moderators do the Moderating. :rolleyes: This “He Said”, “She Said” nonsense is kids stuff. :sleep Please refer to post #147 and now let’s just get on with it. :)	B.M. (505)
819605	2009-12-10 18:56:00	Totally agree BM. PF1 is a place people ask questions and hopefully get answers. Heres a legit question relating to OOo and I dont know or cant find the answer to in google - When will Open Office be making web based documents ? Google has google Doc's, MS are working on web based - and there are a few others as well. The way things are going, having web based documents in the future will be the "in thing".	wainuitech (129)
819606	2009-12-10 21:05:00	I think we are just going around and around and around here over the same points . Let's just move on now . :thanks Hi Jen, Yea I'm sorry about this going on a bit much . I'm just trying to establish the rules thing here and what defines personal gain . That particular part of rule 8 I asked about several times which Wainuitech has studiously avoided answering . My problem is: If someone yells that "Rules are being broken" loud enough and often enough, even though it is demonstrably untrue, does that then change the rule . Your post 147 so often referred to, was prompted more by the fact that the slanging match between Wainuitech and BM could get nasty, than any rules being broken by yours truly . And thanks for BM's support . I read the rules and conditions before I started and was very careful about staying within them and in fact tried to err on the side of caution . My point was and is: The simple fact of my position within the OOo community as demonstrated on my avatar is going to mean that any comment I make about OOo could be seen as promotional, but because I stand to make no personal gain, then it doesn't break Rule 8 . The reason I requested clarification from Wainuitech about the "Personal Gain" part of the rule was to preempt any later comments from him on any other posts I may make on the subject of OOo, I did this because his comments were the "squeaky wheel" that caused the questioning of Rule 8 and he could ostensibly do the same thing in any other thread that I was to comment in . I should add that I'm not getting P'd off about this, the discussion has been, but for a very small hiccup, conducted in a civilised fashion, something that is an unfortunate rarity in many forums on the triple dub . Kudos to Wainuitech for that . I simply disagree with him that I am in breach of Rule 8 because of the "Personal Gain" section of said rule and I was asking him to defend that part of his proposition . Something he has studiously avoided doing so I must assume that he can't . :)	Yorick (8120)
819607	2009-12-10 21:09:00	I think we are just going around and around and around here over the same points. Let's just move on now. :thanks Say what? :p	wratterus (105)
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