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Thread ID: 103949 2009-10-11 22:00:00 Any OpenOffice.org Users out there? Yorick (8120) Press F1
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819588 2009-12-09 06:04:00 Theres no need to "shut up" if theres a question, thats what the forum is about - it's the promoting of the software that may go against forum rules --

This look familar -- "The OpenOffice.org Marketing Project exists to promote the
OpenOffice.org Community and the Products and Services it provides "

= advertising.
wainuitech (129)
819589 2009-12-09 06:31:00 4300 hits on the thread and one moans. :groan:

Well done.
B.M. (505)
819590 2009-12-09 06:35:00 4300 hits on the thread and one moans. :groan:

Well done.
Obviously you can count, several people have agreed - and hits mean F*** all.

Might just arrange a little test as I mentioned before - get someone I know to post some "advertising" similar to this thread-- see how long it lasts. could be this week, or next or next ;)
wainuitech (129)
819591 2009-12-09 07:27:00 I wonder if calling yourself a Computer Tech from Wainuiomata could be seen as advertising or soliciting for work? :eek:

I suppose it depends how pedantic you want to be.
B.M. (505)
819592 2009-12-09 07:50:00 Ewww personal attacks now is it - see how low some can go -- For starters there are many computer technicians here, some have their business details or contacts in their profiles ( I dont ) - please point out ANY post that I have actually myself said where exactly I am as in business address, AND my company name & soliciting for work. NEVER - not even in my profile, which BTW I see you have visited.

From last count I know of 4 Computer Techs who run a business in the suburb that I live - I could be any one of them.

I am a Computer Tech yes - I have several computer Quals and diplomas.
wainuitech (129)
819593 2009-12-09 08:08:00 Ye Gods I don't believe I just did this! :D


I went back over the thread and went through the messages and the results are:

Answers to original query: 30
Other Questions with no other comment: 5
My answer to questions in any post WRT OOo:27
Off topic Posts that had nothing to with OOo: 8
Other Comments that were on topic and often contained a query or something that needed answering: 49
Posts by me that could be construed as purely Promo:12

Yea I know there are a couple short, what can I say I flunked Accounting! ;)

In my defence most of the "Promo" ones were in direct response to Off Topic comments promoting MSO, The 100 million post I'll happily take the shot for, but bugger it, it was just COOL! :D. If the consensus is I should shutup, then I'm happy to cease and desist. Right now there are more posts about the thread than about the topic so it's probably best.


I beleive that you made the first post in this thread to find out how many users of Open Office were out there so you said.

Then you started the help thread which only pushes the product in my opinion.
Sweep (90)
819594 2009-12-09 09:07:00 Righto.

Let me dive right in here. I can see both sides of the argument (guess that is why I am a Mod :p).

Yorick has been incredibly helpful in explaining OOo usage and tips in answer to people's questions. There is no doubt people really appreciate this and it is great having that experience on the board. :thumbs:

On the other hand, yes there has been a bit of promo. It can be a fine line at times and as we have several people raising this issue, it does suggest it has been pushed a bit too much. Yorick is obviously passionate about OOo and it is easily to get caught up in sharing your enthusiasm for the product especially when there is an appreciative audience.

Compromise: Ease back on your enthusiasm in spreading the love and perhaps focus on answering members queries.


Note, if anyone thinks it will be amusing to play tic-for-tac by starting a "promo" thread (as suggested) they will find out just how grumpy Mods can be. Don't go there. :thanks

Now be nice everyone and gather around for a group hug. :D
Jen (38)
819595 2009-12-09 09:30:00 :wub wainuitech (129)
819596 2009-12-09 09:48:00 There is no doubt that Open Office is good software and an alternative to MSOffice.

:2cents:
Sweep (90)
819597 2009-12-09 12:39:00 Theres no need to "shut up" if theres a question, thats what the forum is about - it's the promoting of the software that may go against forum rules --

This look familar -- "The OpenOffice . org Marketing Project exists to promote the
OpenOffice . org Community and the Products and Services it provides "

= advertising .

Irrelevant, I said that up front: Marketing Contact, the title is pretty unambiguous . I go back to the critical part of Rule 8 " . . . . . for personal gain . " there is no possible gain for me personally or even for the project!

Somebody developing a piece of free software would stand to gain if that software was promoted to the point that someone brought the rights to it, that happens a lot, so your developer friend fits a different paradigm .

But now this is getting divisive which I didn't want :( .

But I will add one last comment:

OOo is free
It will remain free
You can upgrade it for free forever
To do that it means people like me get no gain

There is a sticky thread on here where a number of people are promoting Microsoft's AV offering as if MS can't find part of their 5 Billion dollar a year marketing budget to do that for themselves .

Sweep was promoting MSO in this thread which is why I felt the need to reply and now I am accused of spamming .

In both these cases someone stands to gain, in both cases Microsoft . However the people promoting the MS product stand to gain as much from their promo efforts as I do from promoting OOo .

The difference is that in the above cases, MS gains, in the OOo case only the enduser gains .
Yorick (8120)
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