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Thread ID: 92316	2008-08-06 01:33:00	Ernest Hemingway...Ever Heard Of Him?	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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695199	2008-08-07 00:54:00	To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant. He received the Pulitzer Prize in 1953 for The Old Man and the Sea, and the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1954. The influence of Hemingway's writings on American literature was considerable and continues today Yeah, doesn't really change the fact that his books are about as interesting as reading a "dilbert" cartoon...... Or the fact that he took the easy way out..... Oh, and quoting dead "philosophers" does not make you any more intelligent, it only demonstrates an ability to copy and paste which is something most 5 year olds are capable of doing....	Veale (536)
695200	2008-08-07 01:24:00	Novels/Novella * The Torrents of Spring (1925) * The Sun Also Rises (1926) * A Farewell to Arms (1929) * To Have and Have Not(1937) * For Whom the Bell Tolls (1940) * Across the River and Into the Trees (1950) * The Old Man and the Sea (1952) * Adventures of a Young Man (1962) * Islands in the Stream (1970) * The Garden of Eden (1986) Nonfiction * Death in the Afternoon (1932) * Green Hills of Africa (1935) * The Dangerous Summer (1960) * A Moveable Feast (1964) Short Story Collections * Three Stories and Ten Poems (1923) * In Our Time (1925) * Men Without Women (1927) * The Snows of Kilimanjaro (1932) * Winner Take Nothing (1933) * The Fifth Column and the First Forty-Nine Stories (1938) * The Essential Hemingway (1947) * The Hemingway Reader (1953) * The Nick Adams Stories (1972) NOTE: Those published datums postmortem were from hidden and uncompleted manuscripts that his wife found, collated and had published . Papa had fallen out of the public's graces when his "Islands In The Stream" book sortta flopped . It wasn't up to his standards and seemed more a wistful fantasy than that of the blood-n-guts self portrait of events and occasions in his own life from previous writings . Remember too that F . Scott Fitzgerald and Papa were staunch literary rivals, although they imbibed and consumed a lot of Puerto Rican rum together . This writer's competition was supposed to keep them both sharp and vital but it actually served to make Hemingway moldered and sullen . This has long been debate as the single cause of his (Papa's) later suicide . There is a lot of discourse about "The Old Man And The Sea" as it was originally intended to be part of an "Island" trilogy that never got bound as one volume and became a three-part troika with T . O . M . A . T . S . as a separate book altogether .	SurferJoe46 (51)
695201	2008-08-07 01:35:00	Yeah, doesn't really change the fact that his books are about as interesting as reading a "dilbert" cartoon . . . . . . Or the fact that he took the easy way out . . . . . Oh, and quoting dead "philosophers" does not make you any more intelligent, it only demonstrates an ability to copy and paste which is something most 5 year olds are capable of doing . . . . Looking above your avatar, I wonder if you are having a senior moment or you are seriously this jaded? Great literature can only build a person up mentally and morally . It serves as both a good and a bad example . . both a blessing and a malediction, if you will . To dismiss something that (appears) that you don't know, haven't read or cannot comprehend is short-sighted, self-abusive and morally bankrupting . Just because it's an American writer holds little or no water . . greatness is greatness all over the place . I even admire Crocodile Dundee, wherever he's from! What truly floats YOUR boat? James Joyce? Robert Heinlein? Isaac Asimov? Benjamin Disraeli? Ralph Waldo Emerson? Emil Zola? William Gaines? Leon Uris? Let's talk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (BTW: There's a ringer in there if you can spot him!)	SurferJoe46 (51)
695202	2008-08-08 06:17:00	...quiet...I thought so.	SurferJoe46 (51)
695203	2008-08-08 06:29:00	Wasnt he some kinda Indaiana Jones type?	rob_on_guitar (4196)
695204	2008-08-08 08:37:00	Then of course he also had a reputation as a womaniser. As an appropriate tune for the occasion, in 1932 Walter Kent wrote a song "Pu-leeze Mister Hemingway", here's Elsie Carlisle with Ambrose and his orchestra on You Tube........... www.youtube.com	Terry Porritt (14)
695205	2008-08-08 14:29:00	"Elsie Carlisle with Ambrose and his orchestra" Who(m) in the world are/is them/they/that? Must be some sortta local NZ talent. :stare:	SurferJoe46 (51)
695206	2008-08-08 16:53:00	Joe - you watching the olympics?	rob_on_guitar (4196)
695207	2008-08-08 20:34:00	"Elsie Carlisle with Ambrose and his orchestra" Who(m) in the world are/is them/they/that? Must be some sortta local NZ talent. :stare: :) :) No, indeed not, culture hadn't yet arrived in New Zealand in 1932, Elsie Carlisle and Ambrose were truly British :) Bert Ambrose had one of the top dance bands in those days, Elsie Carlisle was a popular entertainer,	Terry Porritt (14)
695208	2008-08-08 20:57:00	I'm not too familiar with the writings of Benjamin Disraeli, Joe . When did he find time to write books - as I understand it, he wrote letters that were subsequently collated and published as books??? On a more serious note though, Veale was dissing Dilbert!!!! :stare: But I like the fact that you drop names like Heinlein and Asimov in alongside Joyce and Zola . . . .	johcar (6283)
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