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Thread ID: 104282 2009-10-22 20:38:00 i5, i7, 1156, 1366, dual channel, triple channel, I can't decide! wratterus (105) Press F1
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823219 2009-10-29 02:13:00 Oh so now you agree with me? That there's very little point in always wanting to save another few hundred for the "next model up"?

If what I'm saying is basic computing knowledge, why are you trying to prove me wrong?

As for SSD's, that's where your "feel" performance upgrade will be for general day-to-day use. Who saw that video where they put some 16-odd SSD's in RAID and then launched every application in their start menu in around 4 seconds? I want one, now I just need to convince SWMBO why I *need* one ;)

Did you EVEN READ what I posted? I think you've been assuming

Seriously!!

I was talking about the 1156 socket issue
The fact that you wont be able to get 6 core+ when they are out
1366 has a longer life span than the 1156 currently at least
The price is similar so you may as well go for the 1366

Performance is a tiny part of the argument!
Battleneter2 (9361)
823220 2009-10-29 02:15:00 Forgod sakes, for those that cant look back



I had this exact decision to make this week upgrading my personnel PC .

I went with 1366 for a few reasons .

*The new 6+ cores next year will not support 1156 only 1366 .
*8X8X PCIE with CF & SLI configs on 1156, really could be a issue with next gen cards,where 1366 is 16x16
*There triple channel mem (low on the careometer) .
*1366 Does slightly perform better than 1156 widely accepted .

Being a fairly heavy Overclocker the following caused me mild concern with the current 1156 . The GENERAL belief is this will not be a issue for mild OC or stock clocked rigs, BUT no one knows for sure yet .

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. hardforum . com/showthread . php?t=1460140" target="_blank">www . hardforum . com

On the down side my 1366 rig cost me about $150 more to buy and power/heat is a little higher than 1156 (ill hug a tree to make up for it :P)

So 1366 baby!! .

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oh I have a Intel Intel X25-M G2 80GB on the way, ill let you know my opinion .

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Battleneter2 (9361)
823221 2009-10-29 02:16:00 :lol: Jokes, why not.
That's very generous of you Wrat! Though I'm not comfortable using up your SSD's cells and degrading the performance no matter how slightly.....

And the fact that if I get the chance to play with it I might have to blow my budget and get an SSD myself!!
qazwsxokmijn (102)
823222 2009-10-29 02:20:00 That's very generous of you Wrat! Though I'm not comfortable using up your SSD's cells and degrading the performance no matter how slightly.....

And the fact that if I get the chance to play with it I might have to blow my budget and get an SSD myself!!

;) All good. That's my thought too, I know if I used one I would end up buying it. :D

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You do know battle, that the 'dots' made on the CPU aren't the marks from the socket right. The CPUs come out of the factory like that. I assume you're looking at the faint scuff marks?

before install with a foxconn 1156
home.comcast.net
after install " " " "
home.comcast.net

Coverage looks pretty good to me, I think a lot of the outcry was people comparing the dot marks on the 1366 socket to the 1156, not realizing that isn't anything to do with the coverage issue.
wratterus (105)
823223 2009-10-29 02:30:00 ;) All good. That's my thought too, I know if I used one I would end up buying it. :D
Yep, I think/know that by taking you up on your offer I'd be stepping into a dangerous money-blowing precedent. :lol:

The CPUs come out of the factory like that. I assume you're looking at the faint scuff marks?
Could it be that Intel tests all their CPUs before wrapping them in retail boxes/send them out to OEM channels? Do they test their CPUs before sending them out the door?

Oh and Wrat, if it's SLI you're looking for in a board - you do know you can flash a P6T SE with a vanilla P6T BIOS, which officially supports SLI. The only diff in the SE is apparently one less gigabit port, a couple of SATA/PATA port things and....yeah that's all I can remember.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
823224 2009-10-29 02:42:00 Could it be that Intel tests all their CPUs before wrapping them in retail boxes/send them out to OEM channels? Do they test their CPUs before sending them out the door?


www.imagef1.net.nz

Not sure, that image should make sure everyone's on the same page with the marks on the CPU.



Oh and Wrat, if it's SLI you're looking for in a board - you do know you can flash a P6T SE with a vanilla P6T BIOS, which officially supports SLI. The only diff in the SE is apparently one less gigabit port, a couple of SATA/PATA port things and....yeah that's all I can remember.

Thanks, I think I may have read that somewhere, the SE isn't quite enough for what I want, but SLI isn't much of a concern for me, will look at getting a 58 series ATI card in the nearish future, but stick with the GTX 260 for a while. :thumbs:
wratterus (105)
823225 2009-10-29 03:01:00 ;) All good. That's my thought too, I know if I used one I would end up buying it. :D

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www.weissmann.us

www.weissmann.us

You do know battle, that the 'dots' made on the CPU aren't the marks from the socket right. The CPUs come out of the factory like that. I assume you're looking at the faint scuff marks?

before install with a foxconn 1156
home.comcast.net
after install " " " "
home.comcast.net

Coverage looks pretty good to me, I think a lot of the outcry was people comparing the dot marks on the 1366 socket to the 1156, not realizing that isn't anything to do with the coverage issue.

Yea its the faint scuff marks. Its hard to see in many other shots so i am on the fence, but there are some respected testers and overclockers that believe there are issues in multiple forums so I cant agree with your prognosis. Worst case assuming more manufactures change socket manufacture and Foxconn re-design this is only a short term issue.

I do however believe its worth considering if your buying " now " , in two months with new inventory it will all be forgotten about.
Battleneter2 (9361)
823226 2009-10-29 03:07:00 Yea its the faint scuff marks. Its hard to see in many other shots so i am on the fence, but there are some respected testers and overclockers that believe there are issues in multiple forums so I cant agree with your prognosis. Worst case assuming more manufactures change socket manufacture and Foxconn re-design this is only a short term issue..

Uh, my prognosis was what exactly? I have never said there wasn't an issue.
wratterus (105)
823227 2009-10-29 03:10:00 It doesnt really matter which way you go now. By the time an i7 is no good most of the regulars on here would have updated again anyway. Im always bang for buck but my i7 upgrade wasnt necessary at all really.

My e6600 and 3.6ghz was more than enough for ANY game. GPU always bottled the system and with 4 gig of ram there was always ram free.

I only expect to use my current system for 18-24 months before upgradin again so I went with 1156, cheaper and still more than enough grunt to be future proof.

ANd who cares about 6 core cpus, there isnt really all that much out that makes the most of 4 yet
hueybot3000 (3646)
823228 2009-10-29 03:11:00 Coverage looks pretty good to me, I think a lot of the outcry was people comparing the dot marks on the 1366 socket to the 1156, not realizing that isn't anything to do with the coverage issue.

oh I just meant this, I think thats a little simplistic.

And sure hueybot300 if you dont care about 6 cores or the 8x8 Sli CF, or the socket issue go 1156 its a personal choice, just so long as its a informed choice.
Battleneter2 (9361)
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