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Thread ID: 104282	2009-10-22 20:38:00	i5, i7, 1156, 1366, dual channel, triple channel, I can't decide!	wratterus (105)	Press F1

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823199	2009-10-28 23:55:00	I personally would sacrifice the SSD and go for an X58 platform.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
823200	2009-10-29 00:03:00	So we have... 1156 Motherboard - Asus P7P55D Pro CPU - Intel i7 860 Lynnfield RAM - Corsair Dominator 4x 2GB DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 SSD - Intel X25-M G2 80GB Total = $1770 1366 Motherboard - Asus P6T Deluxe CPU - Intel i7 920 Nehalem RAM - Corsair 3x 2GB DDR3-1866 7-8-7-20 SSD - Intel X25-M G2 80GB Total = $2078 $300 difference, give or take. I'm not convinced lads! ;)	wratterus (105)
823201	2009-10-29 00:36:00	Well for my X58 build these are what I'll be getting: Asus P6T SE i7 920 6GB Patriot Viper 1600 Total = $1143.63 + $550 for the Intel SSD (for you, Wrat, not me - I'm getting a 5870!) = 1693.63 All from CL The Patriot got favourable reviews online and are good overclockers at 1.65v. Really they're just like the Dominator only cheaper + different cooling heatsink. They've got lifetime warranty and buying from CL makes you feel better too. I also chose P6T SE because I don't need the luxuries the Deluxe offers, eg 24GB instead of 12GB RAM etc. You just have to ask yourself: do I really need these extra features? Many people have OC'ed their 920s to 4GHz and over on these P6T SEs, so I'm convinced! :D	qazwsxokmijn (102)
823202	2009-10-29 00:47:00	Using Computer Lounge The Asus P6T Deluxe is $545 (1366) The Asus P7P55D Pro $275 (1156) Not exactly apples for apples. You could use a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R Intel X58 DDR3 PCI-E LGA1366 $349 which does 16x Crossfire and SLi which is a nice option. www.firingsquad.com But I guess if you HAVE to have Asus P6T SE Motherboard LGA1366 sells for around $362 but CF only. www.tastech.co.nz I think Asus has a small hole in there linup atm. Anyway that's the reason for your big diff add in the fact the 1366 has 2gig more ram and all of a sudden its basically the same cost ;)	Battleneter2 (9361)
823203	2009-10-29 00:51:00	lol rather a odd post, you should always pic the best option with the information you have at the time, its common sence and logic taking into account of your personel budget. IF your al;ready about to spend 2K why not spend 2.2K for the better option. And sure SolMiester its up to the individual as to the importance you place on more cores, although higher multithreading is the likely trend. IMO your logic is totally flawed for more than one reason: 1) Why stop at $2.2K? When you can spend another $200 and get an EVEN BETTER option? Reason: Most people don't put *any* stress on their CPU's. Topping out around 3Ghz single-core is enough for all but gamers, or users of high-end audio / video processing. 2) Multithreading applications are the way the world will start heading, however the OS itself does a pretty decent job of passing load equally between multiple CPU's / Cores as it is, so realistically as a programmer,you dont HAVE to worry about programming for multiple threads. Performance may be gained if you keep it in mind, but still. I mean lets be honest here, if you double-click on Internet Explorer with your 2Ghz+ Core i7, compared to my Media PC's 2.4Ghz P4, you're still going to be waiting 3-4 seconds for the HARD DRIVE, before you see it on your screen. All the CPU grunt in the world makes SFA difference when it comes to the better part of users. I know somebody who goes absolutely anal about buying all the latest CPU's and things whenever he recommends hardware to people. Seriously though, if you're spending most of your time browsing, chatting, checking emails, even some light gaming, a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo will *more* than suffice! Heavy gaming perhaps something more, but again its NOT the CPU that matters. That is why your logic is flawed ;)	Chilling_Silence (9)
823204	2009-10-29 00:52:00	Using Computer Lounge The Asus P6T Deluxe is $545 (1366) The Asus P7P55D Pro $275 (1156) Not exactly apples for apples. I'm comparing the features not the prices. ;) You could use a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R Intel X58 DDR3 PCI-E LGA1366 $349 which does 16x Crossfire and SLi which is a nice option. www.firingsquad.com That board looks OK, that's what Asus is missing in their line up ATM. I think Asus has a small hole in there linup atm. Agreed. Anyway that's the reason for your big diff add in the fact the 1366 has 2gig more ram and all of a sudden its basically the same cost ;) The 1366 has 6GB RAM, the 1156 has 8GB. ;) I don't think I should have to sacrifice features and numbers of ports on the board just to get a higher powered CPU that I probably won't use to anywhere near it's capabilities. By the time apps need 12 threads, everyone's systems here will be long obsolete. Copied from somewhere... P6T can support a maximum of 12GB of RAM, has JMicron PATA, SATA, and eSATA chips, and a single Realtek Gigabit LAN. Audio is via a Realtek ALC1200. The Deluxe can support a maximum of 24GB of RAM, has 2 SAS ports and Marvell for SATA, eSATA, and PATA. The Deluxe features 2 Marvel Gigabit ports. Slightly better audio on the Deluxe via the ADI AD2000B chip. The general layout on the deluxe would work better for me personally. Just my thoughts on it anyhow, I still haven't decided 100%... :p	wratterus (105)
823205	2009-10-29 00:52:00	Anyway that's the reason for your big diff add in the fact the 1366 has 2gig more ram and all of a sudden its basically the same cost ;) That and the fact that X58 is more expensive than P55. I mean the P6T SE is only an entry-level X58 motherboard. It's still laden with features, of course, which makes it appealing for me.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
823206	2009-10-29 01:05:00	You try and tell Supreme Commander Forged Alliance with 3 or more ALX AI doesn't need more than 3Ghz. It clearly does benefit going to 4Ghz form a sim speed point of view, around 20% faster FYI!!. Sure examples are rare atm, but I DO play this myself often. Nice rant Chilling_Silence I remember similar posts form certain people about the benefits of single core vs dual core 3-4 years ago, why do you need more than one core lol But bottom line with 1366 & 1156 are so close in price (basically its the extra 2 gig ram diff), 1156 is not making a lot of sense when you research it, until recently there was a clear price advantage but not now.	Battleneter2 (9361)
823207	2009-10-29 01:17:00	No, wrong! The main bottleneck will be: GPU -- To run at a high resolution with AA & AF will place more strain on the GPU than anything else. Yes it'll strain the CPU, but not as much, and as mentioned thats high-end gaming RAM -- The actual game itself ends up using a truckload of RAM and starts running in to issues, as SolMiester and I have been over previously, using that exact game as a reference ;) 2GB RAM? When you've got 6GB already? Seriously what the hell are you doing? Gaming while converting videos while keeping 100 browser tabs open, with your office documents from the last two months all open? If you're going to game, close all your other crap down first so it doesn't interfere, regardless of having additional CPU / RAM to burn or not. Tell me a game that will require you to have more than 4GB RAM total on a Vista / Win7 system, please! There is none. And you know what? MOST still do NOT need more than 1 core, as mentioned, with the exception of high-end gamers, or those doing A/V work.	Chilling_Silence (9)
823208	2009-10-29 01:18:00	Doh! I don't want to wait that long. Thanks Sol. So much for that idea then. Back to 1156/1366 decision. You never know, my new Asus mobo might just fry itself and I'll have to upgrade to something with the Hydra chip. :p I like the look of this lot... Motherboard - Asus P7P55D Pro CPU - Intel i7 860 Lynnfield RAM - Corsair Dominator 4x 2GB DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 SSD - Intel X25-M G2 80GB :cool: sweet!	SolMiester (139)
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