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Thread ID: 104249	2009-10-21 20:34:00	Advice on graphics cards 4 a gaming computer	jlanauze (15365)	Press F1

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822742	2009-10-21 20:34:00	do i need to get a better Video Card or will the Integrated graphics card do for a gameing computer Asus M2-Crosshair II Formula AM2 Gaming+ Motherboard Specifications: CPU • AMD Socket AM2+ Processors • AMD Phenom™ FX / Phenom / Athlon™ / Sempron™ • AMD Socket AM2 for AMD Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 / Sempron • AMD Cool'n'Quiet™ Technology Chipset • NVIDIA nForce® 780a SLI System Bus • Up to 5200/MT/s HyperTransport™ 3.0 interface for AM2+ CPU • 2000 / 1600 MT/s for AM2 CPU Memory • 4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory • Dual Channel memory architecture * When installing total memory of 4GB capacity or more, Windows® 32-bit operation system may only recognize less than 3GB. Hence, a total installed memory of less than 3GB is recommended. Expansion Slots • 3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 support NVIDIA SLI Tech @ dual x16 or 3-way@x8, x8, x 8 • 2 x PCIe x1 • 2 x PCIe1.0 x1, PCIex1_1 (black) is compatible with audio slot VGA • Integrated graphics • 512MB Maximum shared memory of MB • Supports HDMI™ Technology with HDCP compliant with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 • Supports D-Sub with max. resolution 1920 × 1440 @ 75 Hz • Multi VGA output support: DVI & D-Sub • Hybrid SLI Support • Scalable Link Interface (SLI™) • Support NVIDIA Hybrid SLI-Ready graphics cards Storage • Southbridge • 1 xUltraDMA 133/100/66/33 • 6 xSATA 3 Gb/s ports • Support RAID 0,1,0+1,5,JBOD LAN • Dual Gigabit LAN, both featuring AI NET2 Audio • SupremeFX II Audio Card • ADI 1988B 8 -Channel High Definition Audio CODEC • Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports at back I/O • ASUS Noise Filter IEEE 1394 • 2 x 1394a ports (1 port at back I/O, 1 port onboard) USB • 12 USB 2.0 ports (6 ports at mid-board, 6 ports at back panel) Overclocking Features • Extreme Tweaker • New 8+2 phase power design Intelligent overclocking tools • CPU Level Up • AI Overclocking (intelligent CPU frequency tuner) • ASUS AI Booster Utility • O.C Profile Overclocking Protection • COP EX (Component Overheat Protection EX) • Voltiminder LED • ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall) Special Features • LCD Poster • ROG BIOS Wallpaper • Onboard Switches: Power / Reset / Clr CMOS(at rear) • Q-Connector • ASUS EZ Flash2 • ASUS CrashFree BIOS2 • Stack Cool 2 • ASUS Q-Shield • ASUS MyLogo3 • Uses 100% All High-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors! Back Panel I/O Ports • 1 x D-Sub • 1 x PS/2 Keyboard • 1 x HDMI • 1 x IEEE 1394a • 2 x LAN(RJ45) port • 6 x USB 2.0/1.1 • 1 x Clr CMOS switch • 1 x Optical + 1 x Coaxial S/PDIF Output Internal I/O Connectors • 3 x USB connectors support additional 6 USB 2.0 ports • 1 x Floppy disk drive connector • 1 x IDE connector • 6 x SATA connectors • 1 x IEEE 1394a connector • 1 x CPU Fan connector • 3 x Chassis Fan connector • 1 x Power Fan connector • 3 x thermal sensor connectors • 1 x S/PDIF Out connector • 1 x8-pin ATX 12V Power connector • 24-pin ATX Power connector • 1 x En/Dis-able Clr CMOS connector • 1 x LCD Poster • Chassis Intrusion connector • System Panel BIOS • 8 Mb Flash ROM • DMI 2.0 • AMI BIOS • PnP • WfM 2.0 • SM BIOS 2.4a • ACPI 2.0a • Multi-language BIOS • Manageability • WOL by PME,WOR by PME,Chasis Intrusion,PXE Accessories • 3-Way SLI Bridge • SLI Bridge • HDMI/DVI converter • ASUS Optional Fan • 3 in 1 ASUS Q-Connector Kit • UltraDMA 133/100/66 cable • Floppy disk drive cable • SATA cables • SATA power cables • 2-port USB2.0 module+IEEE1394a module • ASUS Q-Shield • Cable Ties • User's manual • Support Disc • The hottest DX10 Game: Company of Heroes:Opposing Fronts Support DVD: • Drivers • ASUS PC Probe II • ASUS Update • ASUS AI Suite • Futuremark ® 3DMark® 06 Advanced Edition • Kaspersky® Anti-Virus • Image-editing software Form Factor • ATX Form Factor • Dimensions: 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm )	jlanauze (15365)
822743	2009-10-21 20:37:00	Welcome to PressF1. :) Onboard graphics are no good at all for gaming. What's the specs of the rest of your PC? You've just listed the motherboard, how much RAM and what speed, what processor, and what power supply are also important, especially power supply for a gaming PC, as new graphics cards need a grunty power supply behind them. That board is also old (ish) tech and not really that great value for money. You are much better off going for an Intel build if you are building a gaming PC from scratch. If you do want an AMD board and you're going to throw that much money at it, you'd be much better off with something like this (AM3 and DDR3 RAM) www.computerlounge.co.nz Do you plan on doing a build from scratch of you already have a PC you're upgrading?	wratterus (105)
822744	2009-10-21 20:38:00	Welcome to PressF1 You'll want a graphics card. What sort of games are you looking at playing and at what resolution will you be running them? What's the specs of the rest of the system?	stormdragon (6013)
822745	2009-10-21 20:39:00	Depends what games you want to play. The integrated graphics will run older games like Counter Strike no problems, but if you want to play more recent games like Crysis etc you will need a dedicated, faster graphics card...	Agent_24 (57)
822746	2009-10-21 20:56:00	do i need to get a better Video Card or will the Integrated graphics card do for a gameing computer ) Hell no. Never. www.tomshardware.com Take a look at the VGA charts, ranking according to best to worst. INtegrated doesn't even rank. The 4850 has dropped to almost free, and 4890's are as cheap as dirt. It would do. However, it does depend on the games. FPSs etc - get the best card you can afford.	pctek (84)
822747	2009-10-21 22:52:00	Ok I can see I don’t know what I’m on talking. Can any of u give me a list of components that would make a decent gaming computer for around 2500-3000 NZ dollars	jlanauze (15365)
822748	2009-10-21 22:55:00	Certainly. ComputerLounge is excellent. Sounds to me like having a pre-built PC delivered to you might be the best option. :) www.computerlounge.co.nz www.computerlounge.co.nz I've never asked them before, but if they would change the motherboard and graphics card in those PCs to either an Asus or Gigabyte branded one that would make things better, those two brands are best. If you went for that cheaper option you could grab a 22" monitor and a nice logitech keyboard and mouse and the whole thing would come to around $2950	wratterus (105)
822749	2009-10-21 23:08:00	If you want to do it yourself then you could upgrade MoBo/RAM/CPU in one fell swoop using ComputerLounge's combo feature. This would be hard to beat: Extreme Asus Maximus III + Supertalent Memory Kit + Intel i7 860 CPU -$1199 Then all you need it a power supply that will handle it and a suitably powerful graphics card. What size/resolution is your monitor? ie: Mine is 22"/1680*1050. There's no point spending bazillions of dollars on an amazing graphics card if your monitor isn't going to tax it. If I were to get a new graphics card at the moment I'd seriously think about getting one of the new 5850's. $550 on ComputerLounge and it's one of the fastest single cards on the market at the moment. If you want to spend more a 5870 is $729. Go for a good brand PSU. A good 500W should do you, but 620W would give you some headroom. Ascent are doing 1500GB Seagates today only for $199, so I'd throw one of them in for good measure. I'm sure I'll be "corrected" in a bit, but that's where I'd put my money if I was in for it today. You'll want an OK size case if you don't have one that you're already happy with. Don't spend too much money on one though, that's one of my regrets. Antec 300 for around $155 should do most systems easily. If you want more the 900 is $220.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
822750	2009-10-21 23:21:00	thanks	jlanauze (15365)
822751	2009-10-21 23:27:00	Intergrated= No, no and no. Youll want a dedicated card maybe nvidia or something that will play frame rates good and be able to display a decent resolution on youre computer. 512mb ram +. Have a look on trademe (www.trademe.co.nz) or a computer shop. If you want to buy a new computer look out for the raphics card in it. Hope this helps! :)	evrypc (15296)
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