| Forum Home | ||||
| PC World Chat | ||||
| Thread ID: 145705 | 2018-01-09 20:21:00 | Golliwogs are harmless | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1444612 | 2018-01-10 06:30:00 | I have had these since I was a kid both me and my sister collected enough tokens from jars of marmalade to get a set each, we still have them and they are worth a bit of coin now. 8633 I don't keep them out on display in the lounge but they do sit on a unit in our bedroom. |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1444613 | 2018-01-11 06:58:00 | ...Enid Blyton and others represented them as all evil thieves and untrustworthy... Not quite "all". We have the 24 original Noddy books and Mr Golly is a very kind businessman. He gave Noddy his first job and later a car for an act of bravery - as I'm sure you all know ;) The Noddy series has been reprinted minus Golliwogs. Personally I don't agree with that, but if somebody is offended I would avoid the offence |
BBCmicro (15761) | ||
| 1444614 | 2018-01-11 07:28:00 | But I definitely don't agree with the following object: (see pics) It's a family heirloom on Mrs Micro's side. She's English Maybe even the Antiques Roadshow wouldn't touch it?? |
BBCmicro (15761) | ||
| 1444615 | 2018-01-11 18:59:00 | It's the why that is the issue: Florence Kate Upton was born in 1873 in Flushing, New York, United States the daughter of English parents who had emigrated to the United States three years previously. she spent several years drawing and developing her artistic skills. To afford tuition to art school, she illustrated a children's book entitled The Adventures of Two Dutch Dolls and a Golliwogg. A product of the blackface minstrel tradition, the Golliwogg had jet black skin; bright red lips; and wild woolly hair. He wore red trousers, a shirt with a stiff collar, red bow-tie, and a blue jacket with tails – all traditional minstrel attire. Minstrel shows lampooned black people as dim-witted, lazy, buffoonish,superstitious and happy-go-lucky. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1444616 | 2018-01-11 19:49:00 | As a very young child, about 50 years ago, I had a golliwog doll. It was known as Golliwog, but the name to me was (and still is) otherwise meaningless. I did not associate the doll with any particular people or race or skin colour. Possibly because its jet black material bore zero resemblance to the true skin colour of anybody. Maybe through the curse of history its name and style has some regrettable associations, but a black doll for a child of any colour is just as good as a similar doll of any other colour as well. As for the effect a doll may have on a childs mind... well I'd personally prefer childrens toys were, like Golliwog, largely asexual in nature and of indeterminate age (eg not obviously a baby doll / teen doll / adult doll), in other words, just a damned kids toy in an approximately hominid shape. Bloody barbie with her hyper sexualized proportions is a lot more injurious to a kids innocence than my golli ever was. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1444617 | 2018-01-11 20:13:00 | Flipping the whole discussion around to Barbie, perhaps we do create a prejudice associated with these things, because whenever I see a young woman who looks like Barbie - long platinum bottle blonde hair, painted face, painted nails, boobs on show, all I really tend to see is my own prejudiced concept of those people - shallow, vain, vacuous selfie-monstors, and I just want to escape away from their annoying babble. Can I blame this on Mattel? |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1444618 | 2018-01-11 20:20:00 | Yes Paul you can. One of the Connery Bond movies he slaps a blondes butt and tells her to move along while he has man talk with someone, just as prejudiced as a Golli | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1444619 | 2018-01-11 20:50:00 | Well, Golly Gosh! All those years I loved my "Golly" I hadn't realised he was anything but loveable. Maybe back in those days people were more innocent. My sister and I both had sleeping dolls and we were disappointed to find they had blue eyes and not brown. A good friend has a granddaughter who is, what is now called, Afro-American. They had to look hard to find a doll she wanted that looked like her and she loved the Maori doll I sent her. I dislike racism and/or racist remarks but I realise that so many people can be offended when no offence was meant. |
Marnie (4574) | ||
| 1444620 | 2018-01-11 22:20:00 | What a lot of nonsense! A Golliwog was nothing more than a kids cuddly toy. :rolleyes: Hell I had a Rupert Bear and he was blue, so I suppose I’ve offended every Brown Bear in the world. :eek: Honestly, the world must be in really good shape if this nonsense is all we have to worry about. As for Barbie, it was all Ken’s fault. :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1444621 | 2018-01-12 00:44:00 | What a lot of nonsense! A Golliwog was nothing more than a kids cuddly toy. :rolleyes: :D This! There are to many people just looking for something to be offended by. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 | |||||