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Thread ID: 145772	2018-01-24 21:53:00	Cigarette Smokers Stink!	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1445376	2018-01-25 09:42:00	......carry on with the maths over a year and it adds up to a lot of lost time. It's still a ridiculous argument to use as an anti-smoking justification - there will be plenty of non-smokers wasting just as much "work time" on personal phone calls, "toilet breaks", facebook, nose-picking - whatever ... It's a simple workplace discipline issue, nothing specific to smokers, and conflating these arguments is disingenuous, and a further normalisation of discrimination against a section of society that chooses not to conform to "what we expect you should do". If it's become OK to "persecute" tobacco users, who's next?	fred_fish (15241)
1445377	2018-01-25 09:50:00	As an expert on this matter, I would say I would take less breaks then the non smokers. I’m just smart about it. Empty bins have a smoke, unload trucks have a smoke.	plod (107)
1445378	2018-01-25 19:23:00	I've heard this nonsense. What extra breaks? WHo does that? I always got tea breaks and lunch,, like everyone else. My smoking had to be done during this time. Who is allowed out every now and then for a smoke? No business I ever came across allows such a thing. Stupid argument.	piroska (17583)
1445379	2018-01-25 19:35:00	I've heard this nonsense. What extra breaks? WHo does that? I always got tea breaks and lunch,, like everyone else. My smoking had to be done during this time. Who is allowed out every now and then for a smoke? No business I ever came across allows such a thing. Stupid argument. I have seen it plenty of times in the past but seems to have gone these days, you used to be able to drive around towns in the uk and see the smokers in the middle of winter huddled outside office doorways freezing their bits off for a puff.	gary67 (56)
1445380	2018-01-25 19:51:00	I've heard this nonsense. What extra breaks? WHo does that? I always got tea breaks and lunch,, like everyone else. My smoking had to be done during this time. Who is allowed out every now and then for a smoke? No business I ever came across allows such a thing. Stupid argument. You were obviously disciplined enough to smoke during the allowed breaks, and good on ya :thumbs: some aren't. The wife (and some of the other colleagues) have all said the person I was referring to couldn't go for more than an hour without having to go outside to light up. Once when I was there doing some work, she went outside twice in 1 hour to smoke. This was outside of standard breaks. Then she would moan like hell at the end of the day when deadlines / cut off times approached and she didn't have enough time to finish what had to be done. When ever she was away on Annual or sick leave and others had to fill in for her they had no problems finishing the daily work on time. Shes since retired, and the lady that has taken over her job, not only has it done in plenty of time, she also does other work. When dealing with hundreds of thousands of $$ each day and trying to battle or chase up lawyers, there cant be time for slackness. Why was she allowed to do this you may ask ?? Their boss is actually really good, he doesn't hound them at all, as long as by the end of the day the work is done, that's fine. He knows how to treat people, and get the best out of them. He's not a multi millionaire by chance ;) BUT try to muck him about or double cross him, and watch out. Once when the internet went out in the building around 12.30ish on a Friday, talking to the ISP they were told it wouldn't be back up till at least 3pm, since most of their work requires internet, he turned round and said you lot may as well bugger off - no point in being here -- so they all went, on full pay. :) Internet came back around 6pm they found out.	wainuitech (129)
1445381	2018-01-26 00:00:00	Well done to that boss! Pragmatic solution, and loyalty earning by the workers. But back on topic ... a few months ago I posted about the Syrian refugee family who moved into the stand alone unit next door. (The second of 7 units in the complex owned by the same Asian investor out to gouge anyone he can for exorbitant rents - in this case the taxpayer - because you and I are paying for them as part of the aid program.) In true Middle East style, the mother does all the work - housekeeping and gardening - resting by sitting on the ground whilst her chain smoking misogynist husband sits on his chair, supervises, and leers at one of the elderly single female owners making life more than a little uncomfortable for her. All the while, chain smoking, as does the son and mother also. What I have found is the smell of the smoke has permeated my unit and I'm now forced to close all the windows on that side of the unit, but the stink still gets in especially when there is little or no wind. :mad:	WalOne (4202)
1445382	2018-01-26 00:46:00	I have worked for senior "old school" (from the '60's) corporate manufacturing industry managers that smoked all day inside their offices. Because we worked for packaging our facility Manager got bulk carton packs (the gold - purple premo 20 packs) for free (Thanks Rothman's). I use to join him when I smoked 30 odd years back. All free cigarettes. He would have heaps of free perfume that we used to smother any smell (Thanks Shiseido fragrances). I used to test hundreds of full 20 carton pack's sometimes with Rothman's senior tech/marketing managers and also test perfume packs. Best (or worse if health conscious) of both I guess. Smoked when we liked at work - since we had slack periods, and sometimes managers absent for days - as long as we kept the place smell free and clean for clients that visited. But many of those manages expired before their time. I think from excessive smoking...	kahawai chaser (3545)
1445383	2018-01-26 01:30:00	You were obviously disciplined enough to smoke during the allowed breaks the person I was referring to couldn't go for more than an hour without having to go outside to light up. . Which makes that person the exception, not the rule. Smoked with numerous people in numerous companies. Never came across one like that	piroska (17583)
1445384	2018-01-26 02:46:00	Which makes that person the exception, not the rule. Smoked with numerous people in numerous companies. Never came across one like that Different people smoke different amounts as we are all aware, some are more in control than others. There's one person I always cringe when I have to go see them. You can smell it when approving the front door. Once inside it takes a few minutes to stop the gag effect ( not exaggerating) Any painted service that's meant to be white or light in color is stained that yellow/Brown color, Once you leave your clothes are stinking of cigarette smoke ( even if its only 15 minutes), first port of call after leaving back home to put the clothes in the washing and have a shower. The person smokes one after the other. Sure not everyone is like that, but there are such people. The linked article -- The company concerned I would assume have done the figures, and decided it was cheaper to offer an incentive to non smokers, some took it up. As re the post prefect posted, why should smokers get more time out for a smoke break than non smokers.?	wainuitech (129)
1445385	2018-01-26 07:14:00	As re the post prefect posted, why should smokers get more time out for a smoke break than non smokers.? Where I worked, the smokers had a smoking break. When I suggested that us non smokers have a non smoking break I was told not to be silly.	Roscoe (6288)
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