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Thread ID: 92951	2008-08-29 03:46:00	New CAD program	Thomas01 (317)	PC World Chat

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701221	2008-08-29 03:46:00	I wonder if we have at long last a worthy successor to DCWIN for those of us who want to use 2D drawings. I refer to AllyCAD on this last months DVD. I admit to never having met it before and have had a reasonable look at it. Unlike the one we looked at last time this seems to have symbols available. It also uses AUIOCAD standards and will read AUTOCAD drgs. I may learn how to use it - but I already have another one I am trying to get to grips with. So perhaps somebody out there has already got familiar with it and can tell us all about it. The help file is certainly well worth a look. For some reason the symbols arrangement seems rather complicated compared to DCWIN. But then most programs seem very difficult on first trying them. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
701222	2008-08-29 09:08:00	Sorry, I tried it :( and fairly promptly deleted it, including the downloaded install file. It may suit some people, but I cannot imagine who they might be. Back to DCW, or DC DOS. DraftChoice is still unthreatened. ;)	R2x1 (4628)
701223	2008-08-29 23:05:00	Sorry, I tried it :( and fairly promptly deleted it, including the downloaded install file. It may suit some people, but I cannot imagine who they might be. Back to DCW, or DC DOS. DraftChoice is still unthreatened. ;) Agreed. DCWIN (Draftchaoice) is still the best if you want a simple easy to understand program with few vices. (Yes there are a few!). But some people want just a bit more. The ability to transfer into AUTOCAD for a start. I know DCWIN will do that but when I have tried it in the past did find some problems - it just didn't convert my drgs as it should have. The great mystery is why DCWIN has never been updated or why has TRIUS stopped supporting it. Have you any ideas about that? DCWIN also has problems finding drawings not stored "down" the family tree. That can be a problem. Your failure to investigate the new program means I am going to have to stir myself and try and get into it just to satisfy my curiosity. Damn. Come on take pity on me - try again with it and write a full report so I don't have to. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
701224	2008-08-29 23:38:00	Well, some of the DCWIN problems can be solved by using CD (DOS version) any time you are doing stuff that needs detail work (I get extreme vexation of the silicon beyond a certain zoom level.) For chasing around the family tree, I use Win Commander to place the current files in DCW's home directory and so save myself that little bit of grief. Anything to reserve my dwindling store of grey matter for the drawing. I don't care too much about the software, I need to concentrate on the project without distractions. So, DCWIN wins again. It is a shame that Trius have stopped trying, maybe we can hope that somebody (or a few of them) make an open source equivalent. If it is as simple and intuitive as DraftChoice, it should earn a following. If it is able to run in Gnu/Linux as well, I think that would just make my day. I am ashamed to say I haven't even tried DC under Wine - might be worth the effort?	R2x1 (4628)
701225	2008-08-30 04:31:00	Well, some of the DCWIN problems can be solved by using CD (DOS version) any time you are doing stuff that needs detail work (I get extreme vexation of the silicon beyond a certain zoom level.) For chasing around the family tree, I use Win Commander to place the current files in DCW's home directory and so save myself that little bit of grief. Anything to reserve my dwindling store of grey matter for the drawing. I don't care too much about the software, I need to concentrate on the project without distractions. So, DCWIN wins again. It is a shame that Trius have stopped trying, maybe we can hope that somebody (or a few of them) make an open source equivalent. If it is as simple and intuitive as DraftChoice, it should earn a following. If it is able to run in Gnu/Linux as well, I think that would just make my day. I am ashamed to say I haven't even tried DC under Wine - might be worth the effort? In the past I have dabbled with QCAD in Linux. I will have to reinstall it to see if it does symbols and I don't know if they do a windows version.	mikebartnz (21)
701226	2008-08-30 22:45:00	In the past I have dabbled with QCAD in Linux. I will have to reinstall it to see if it does symbols and I don't know if they do a windows version. Sounds interesting. I haven't dabbled with Linux as I am scared of not being able to find programs like MSWORKS, ACDSee(the earlier versions of course), and DCWIN. Awaiting your findings with bated breath. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
701227	2008-08-30 23:08:00	Open office is better than MS works but personally I don't find it quite as good as MS office, I play with ubuntu linux sometimes but am not ready to make the switch permanently just yet	gary67 (56)
701228	2008-08-31 03:17:00	QCAD seems to have a sort of equivalent for symbols, but the whole modus operandi ( ?!?) seems a bit convoluted, or I am showing more senility. ;) And Tom, it can be used in Winderz if you wish.	R2x1 (4628)
701229	2008-08-31 05:12:00	Open office is better than MS works but personally I don't find it quite as good as MS office, I play with ubuntu linux sometimes but am not ready to make the switch permanently just yet I have MSWorks, Open Office & MS Office. I agree with your observations if we are considering power. Otherwise I reckon v4.5 of MSWorks is streets ahead of the other two. I like the way when I open it, all my databases etc I am using are all up ready to work. I like the way dates and times can be entered automatically with a couple of key strokes. I like the way I can design and get a new database running in about 3 minutes - one for instance that has fields for names, addresses, occupations, comments etc. Neither of the others have anything like that. I use databases all over the place for all sorts of things. Yee gods when we had an attic I even had one for stuff that went up there. I was the only person around who knew exactly what was in my attic without looking. I also have MSWorks later than v4.5 and it rests where it should - in a drawer where hopefully it will never be found. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
701230	2008-09-04 10:15:00	I have MSWorks, Open Office & MS Office. I agree with your observations if we are considering power. Otherwise I reckon v4.5 of MSWorks is streets ahead of the other two. I like the way when I open it, all my databases etc I am using are all up ready to work. I like the way dates and times can be entered automatically with a couple of key strokes. I like the way I can design and get a new database running in about 3 minutes - one for instance that has fields for names, addresses, occupations, comments etc. Neither of the others have anything like that. I use databases all over the place for all sorts of things. Yee gods when we had an attic I even had one for stuff that went up there. I was the only person around who knew exactly what was in my attic without looking. I also have MSWorks later than v4.5 and it rests where it should - in a drawer where hopefully it will never be found. Tom I'm trying to work out what a rubbish program like MSWorks has to do with CAD programs.	mikebartnz (21)
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