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Thread ID: 93443 2008-09-17 01:16:00 Updated CSS (aka "the forum, and nothing but the forum") Erayd (23) PC World Chat
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705861 2008-09-17 06:05:00 Why not email the people responsible for the advertising on this forum and express your views to them (politely of course!) on why the size and placement of the ads are so disruptive to viewing the website?

Not sure who this person would be, but I guess Advertising (pcworld.co.nz) would be a good place to start.

I doubt complaining on the forum will make a difference (going from previous experience).
Jen (38)
705862 2008-09-17 06:06:00 I don't have a problem with ads until they render the site unusable - at that point, my tolerance threshold is reached. I'm sad to say that PressF1 is the only site on the web on which I actually block the ads. The only other site that bugged me was slashdot (http://slashdot.org/), and I have paid a subscription for that.

I have no problem in principle with helping to pay for a site's operating costs; if you search my posts here I have suggested such a system for PressF1 several times, and have offered to pay to get the ads removed. I have also suggested several sensible measures to bring the ads more in line with what users will tolerate. Unfortunately the powers that be don't appear to be particularly sensible with their ad management strategy, leaving me (and several others) no choice but to block them or not use the site - it's unusable otherwise.

Admittedly posting the kind of scripts I do to combat this is pushing a point, but from my point of view doing so is actually helping to make my point. It's entirely understandable if you don't agree with my point of view, but I feel that Fairfax has a certain level of obligation to treat the community that makes this site a success with some respect. Cramming so many ads down our throats that it causes severe usage difficulties is clearly not compatible with this ideal.

By all means criticise my approach, but I don't appreciate being labelled as ungrateful or paranoid when I have clearly demonstrated otherwise.

What do you mean the site is unusable.
I have no problem with it and most other people don't either.

Don't you think you should look at what you are using on your system that is causing the problem.
Safari (3993)
705863 2008-09-17 06:18:00 Why not email the people responsible for the advertising on this forum and express your views to them (politely of course!) on why the size and placement of the ads are so disruptive to viewing the website?

Not sure who this person would be, but I guess Advertising (pcworld.co.nz) would be a good place to start.

I doubt complaining on the forum will make a difference (going from previous experience).

I have tried that before and got nowhere - all correspondence on this subject has been patently ignored, hence my current approach. I agree that complaining is unlikely to get anywhere, but continual posting of de-cluttering code might get some action (although history says otherwise on this, however it's still a useful tool for members who find the advertising a problem).


What do you mean the site is unusable.
I have no problem with it and most other people don't either.I mean that on a 1280*800 screen, it's impossible to see *any* useful text without scrolling down. This makes quickly evaluating new threads rather unweildy. The servers which the ads are hosted on are also a frequent source of delays, and if you have pipelining enabled in your browser can cause significant issues with page loading from time to time.

I would also suggest that most people find these ads annoying, it's just that most people dont' bother complaining about them.


Don't you think you should look at what you are using on your system that is causing the problem.My system is not causing the problem - my system is *removing* the problem.
Erayd (23)
705864 2008-09-17 06:33:00 I realize this code formats the website so there are no ads but...

...forgive me for being so ignorant, but what does one do with said code?
pine-o-cleen (2955)
705865 2008-09-17 06:36:00 I realize this code formats the website so there are no ads but...

...forgive me for being so ignorant, but what does one do with said code?

Use stylish (addons.mozilla.org) to apply it to the PressF1 site if you're using Firefox, or if you're using Opera then apply it as a user style.

If you have IE you're out of luck - as far as I'm aware there is no way to use it.
Erayd (23)
705866 2008-09-17 06:39:00 I realize this code formats the website so there are no ads but...

...forgive me for being so ignorant, but what does one do with said code?

You need some sort of stylesheet addon, or a browser that supports overriding stylesheets. Stylish will do this job on Firefox, and there are similar addons for IE, but I don't know the names of any offhand.
Greven (91)
705867 2008-09-17 06:55:00 Just a question on that code, Erayd...

FF3 seems to block out the text box when creating a new thread - all I see is a box with the smilies in it.

Do I have anything different in the header of my (your) code that would cause this, or is this another issue?



you need to remove the iframe line as it stuffs something up on Firefox


div iframe,
Morgenmuffel (187)
705868 2008-09-17 06:58:00 For those who like "the forum, and nothing but the forum", here's the latest CSS. Note that I haven't had time to test this extensively yet, so if something is broken please let me know so I can fix it :).

This can be applied directly as a user style in Opera, or using the stylish plugin in Firefox.
/*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */
.fairfax_nav,
.newsletter_div,
#adSpace1,
#adSpace2,
#adSpace3,
#adSpace4,
#adSpace5,
#adSpace6,
#advert-banner,
#header,
#jcornerSmall,
#jcornerBig,
#navigation,
#page-peel-right-6,
#sponsor_div,
.,
.sponsored_links,
table[width="160"],
table[bgcolor="#DF0026"],
table[cellpadding="5"],
td[width="180"],
td[width="170"],
td[width="300"],
div[align="center"] a[target="_new"],
div[style="width:160px; float:left; "],
div[style="width:300px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "],
div[style="width:290px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "],
div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "],
div[style="text-align:center; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; margin:0 10px;"],
div[onmouseover="peel()"],
img[alt="PC World Forums"],
embed[name="jcornerSmallObject"],
embed[umode="transparent"],
div embed,
div iframe,
object
{display: none;}

Problem solved: commenting out the
div iframe,has done the trick for me in Stylish!
johcar (6283)
705869 2008-09-17 07:00:00 you need to remove the iframe line as it stuffs something up on Firefox


div iframe,

Thanks for solving that! *Gives cookie* :D
Erayd (23)
705870 2008-09-17 07:04:00 Problem solved: commenting out the
div iframe,has done the trick for me in Stylish!


Thanks for solving that! *Gives cookie* :D

Same thing happened last time, so there wasn't to much grey matter being exercised
Morgenmuffel (187)
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