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Thread ID: 93443	2008-09-17 01:16:00	Updated CSS (aka "the forum, and nothing but the forum")	Erayd (23)	PC World Chat

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705851	2008-09-17 03:22:00	Just a question on that code, Erayd . . . FF3 seems to block out the text box when creating a new thread - all I see is a box with the smilies in it . Do I have anything different in the header of my (your) code that would cause this, or is this another issue? (It's not a biggie - it only affects new thread creation and can be quickly worked around by temporarily turning of the style) My code: @-moz-document domain("pressf1 . pcworld . co . nz"), domain("forums . pcworld . co . nz"), domain("pressf1 . co . nz") { /*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */ . fairfax_nav, . newsletter_div, #adSpace1, #adSpace2, #adSpace3, #adSpace4, #adSpace5, #adSpace6, #advert-banner, #header, #jcornerSmall, #jcornerBig, #navigation, #page-peel-right-6, #sponsor_div, . , . sponsored_links, table[width="160"], table[bgcolor="#DF0026"], table[cellpadding="5"], td[width="180"], td[width="170"], td[width="300"], div[align="center"] a[target="_new"], div[style="width:160px; float:left; "], div[style="width:300px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], div[style="width:290px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], div[style="width:302px; float:left; margin-right:10px; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; "], div[style="text-align:center; border:1px solid #cccccc; padding:5px; margin:0 10px;"], div[onmouseover="peel()"], img[alt="PC World Forums"], embed[name="jcornerSmallObject"], embed[umode="transparent"], div embed, div iframe, object {display: none;} }	johcar (6283)
705852	2008-09-17 03:40:00	I'm not sure - it certainly doesn't cause any problems on my setup (Opera 9.6 beta), as I started this thread with the styles enabled. Can anyone else confirm this problem? I don't have time for an extensive debugging session right now, but if it continues to cause problems I'll take a closer look at it for you. I also noticed you have an extra '}' at the end of your file; does removing this fix the issue?	Erayd (23)
705853	2008-09-17 03:45:00	It's the closing curly from the first line. It's how stylish does it.	roddy_boy (4115)
705854	2008-09-17 03:48:00	It's the closing curly from the first line. It's how stylish does it. Aaah, gotcha - didn't notice that, thanks :). Does anyone else experience this issue with the new CSS?	Erayd (23)
705855	2008-09-17 04:25:00	some of us are just too plain stupid to know what to do with this piece of code Erayd so nooooooo, no issues because I did not do anything with it. sarel	sarel (2490)
705856	2008-09-17 04:29:00	Works fine for me in FF3. Only real difference is the domain, but I'm not sure if this could be causing it at all. @namespace url(www.w3.org); @-moz-document domain("pressf1.co.nz") { /*remove ads and misc branding clutter, clean up layout */ ...	roddy_boy (4115)
705857	2008-09-17 04:34:00	some of us are just too plain stupid to know what to do with this piece of code Erayd so nooooooo, no issues because I did not do anything with it. sarel It's a piece of css code, intended to be applied to the PressF1 website. The effect is to remove all the ads and branding, leaving only vbulletin to fill the whole browser window. To apply it, save it to a 'filename.css' file file somewhere, and apply it as a user style (Opera) by right-clicking the page>>edit site preferences>>display>>my stylesheet, and choosing the file you just saved. In Firefox, use the stylish plugin to apply it - this process has been explained several times before in other threads on the subject, and as I haven't actually used stylish before I'll leave the explanation to those who have.	Erayd (23)
705858	2008-09-17 04:58:00	Personally I think you are very fortunate that you are even allowed to post this sort of information on this forum. Many other forums would ban this as they rely on ads to survive. I don't have any problem with the ads myself and I think it is only a few paranoid, ungrateful members that go to these sort of lengths to avoid displaying the ads that help to keep this site viable.	Safari (3993)
705859	2008-09-17 05:45:00	I don't have any problem with the ads myself and I think it is only a few paranoid, ungrateful members that go to these sort of lengths to avoid displaying the ads that help to keep this site viable.I don't have a problem with ads until they render the site unusable - at that point, my tolerance threshold is reached. I'm sad to say that PressF1 is the only site on the web on which I actually block the ads. The only other site that bugged me was slashdot (http://slashdot.org/), and I have paid a subscription for that. I have no problem in principle with helping to pay for a site's operating costs; if you search my posts here I have suggested such a system for PressF1 several times, and have offered to pay to get the ads removed. I have also suggested several sensible measures to bring the ads more in line with what users will tolerate. Unfortunately the powers that be don't appear to be particularly sensible with their ad management strategy, leaving me (and several others) no choice but to block them or not use the site - it's unusable otherwise. Admittedly posting the kind of scripts I do to combat this is pushing a point, but from my point of view doing so is actually helping to make my point. It's entirely understandable if you don't agree with my point of view, but I feel that Fairfax has a certain level of obligation to treat the community that makes this site a success with some respect. Cramming so many ads down our throats that it causes severe usage difficulties is clearly not compatible with this ideal. By all means criticise my approach, but I don't appreciate being labelled as ungrateful or paranoid when I have clearly demonstrated otherwise.	Erayd (23)
705860	2008-09-17 05:51:00	I don't have a problem with ads until they render the site unusable - at that point, my tolerance threshold is reached. I'm sad to say that PressF1 is the only site on the web on which I actually block the ads. The only other site that bugged me was slashdot (http://slashdot.org/), and I have paid a subscription for that. I have no problem in principle with helping to pay for a site's operating costs; if you search my posts here I have suggested such a system for PressF1 several times, and have offered to pay to get the ads removed. I have also suggested several sensible measures to bring the ads more in line with what users will tolerate. Unfortunately the powers that be don't appear to be particularly sensible with their ad management strategy, leaving me (and several others) no choice but to block them or not use the site - it's unusable otherwise. Admittedly posting the kind of scripts I do to combat this is pushing a point, but from my point of view doing so is actually helping to make my point. It's entirely understandable if you don't agree with my point of view, but I feel that Fairfax has a certain level of obligation to treat the community that makes this site a success with some respect. Cramming so many ads down our throats that it causes severe usage difficulties is clearly not compatible with this ideal. By all means criticise my approach, but I don't appreciate being labelled as ungrateful or paranoid when I have clearly demonstrated otherwise. Agreed. BTW, I get the same issue I described earlier on replies too!!	johcar (6283)
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