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Thread ID: 93649	2008-09-25 23:43:00	Windows 7	jwil1 (65)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
707891	2008-09-30 21:03:00	I didn't notice a cost to usability. UAC isn't THAT annoying IMO.	pcuser42 (130)
707892	2008-09-30 21:19:00	I didn't notice a cost to usability. UAC isn't THAT annoying IMO. You're kidding right? That's the first thing I turned off in Vista. Even before installing drivers.	jwil1 (65)
707893	2008-09-30 21:22:00	I'm not kidding. :stare:	pcuser42 (130)
707894	2008-09-30 21:24:00	Have you tried Vista without it? :p	jwil1 (65)
707895	2008-09-30 22:11:00	Yes.	pcuser42 (130)
707896	2008-09-30 23:50:00	I didn't notice a cost to usability. UAC isn't THAT annoying IMO. I'll second that - you can soon turn it off if you dont like it. AND its not just Vista - I have been playing with Linux over the last few days - wanna talk about UAC ? Linux jumps up with almost every system change asking for a Admin Password before allowing you to make any changes. Seems its the same/worse than Vista's UAC.:lol:	wainuitech (129)
707897	2008-10-01 00:00:00	It delivered what it promised, i . e . better security etc . :lol: You actually believe Any Windows is secure? There is a sense that the security issues that existed in abundance in previous versions of Windows will not be of concern in Vista . The implication that Vista is to be so secure has trickled into the mindsets of executives, analysts, product developers, and even engineers . However, as any observant veteran of the technology industry can tell you, while the marketing tagline may be true, the translation is likely to be far from reality . Windows Vista will probably continue to have security issues, as every new or improved operating system does . Vista has buffer overflow protection, as it is a carryover from XP . Unfortunately, it does not protect against all types of overflows . Additionally, the protection offered has been shown to be subject to subversion with some clever techniques, as have many of the stack guard products designed to prevent stack buffer overflows . The average Microsoft developer is said to average six bugs for every thousand lines of code, which is considered better than average . With the ten-plus million lines of new code, and the millions of lines of modified code migrated into Vista, there could be a fair number of bugs present out of the box, including bugs that can be leveraged by a malicious party . Code audits reduce, but do not eliminate, bugs and security issues in complex software . Additionally, patches and service packs will continually introduce new code into Vista that may or may not be as tightly audited due to time constraints for patch releases . Vista is too complex a product to catch all of its security holes in a single code audit . However, while the new Vista security features are welcome, they do not, in fact, solve most of the security issues that current Windows users are subject to . We should assume that at least as many security problems exist in Vista as in any previous version of Windows, if not more, no matter what the hype or rhetoric that surrounds its security expectations . Perhaps Vista will live up to the lofty expectations placed upon it, but history has shown this is not likely . . com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/01/24/do-vista-users-need-fewer-patches-than-xp-users . aspx" target="_blank">msinfluentials . com	pctek (84)
707898	2008-10-01 00:22:00	Windows 7 sounds promising....but so did Vista. Oh, tell me, whats wrong with Vista.	SolMiester (139)
707899	2008-10-01 00:24:00	Perhaps Vista will live up to the lofty expectations placed upon it, but history has shown this is not likely. www.youtube.com :p	pcuser42 (130)
707900	2008-10-01 07:51:00	It delivered what it promised, i.e. better security etc. I don't know where you come from but it delivered very little of what was in the vapourware product. eg the new file system, but then again it really wasn't that new because it was going to sit on top of NTFS so I couldn't see the big advantage.	mikebartnz (21)
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