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Thread ID: 93608 2008-09-24 12:08:00 Just curious qazwsxokmijn (102) PC World Chat
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707528 2008-09-24 21:14:00 Capital punishment is far too soft.
Make them live under a National Government.
R2x1 (4628)
707529 2008-09-24 22:54:00 Chinese food standards don't measure up - Why does any country, let alone NZ and Australia who have no problems feeding their people, import food from China?
Answer higher profits - product is much cheaper, not that the end consumer gets it cheaper - the middlemen make more money.
This is not the first food scandal from China, just the latest, and there will be more until some "responsible" politician takes action.
KenESmith (6287)
707530 2008-09-24 23:02:00 Just wondering what everybody here thinks should be done to those responsible for the whole milk scandal crap going on.

We have all these NZ food regulations to protect consumers from food grown in NZ, which has made our food more expensive to produce. In fact it is so expensive that we can't afford to buy it, and most is exported as international buyers will pay more for it. However the food that we import into NZ have not undergone any of those NZ regulations, and is the cheapest of the cheap in many cases.

I think Fonterra have got a lot to asnwer for, and I hope they will be paying compensation to those affected.
robbyp (2751)
707531 2008-09-24 23:20:00 I think Fonterra have got a lot to asnwer for, and I hope they will be paying compensation to those affected.

All Fonterra have done is been naive. They were minority investors, trusted their Chinese partners, and its turned out to be a bad investment.

You and I could make the same mistake - it happens every day. People go into business as silent partners with friends, family members etc only to later find out the people they trusted are dishonest or incompetent.

It seems that this bulking up of milk-powder with additives is a widespread practise in Asia. It is a scandal, a shock, but nothing to do with Fonterra.

Yes, in hindsight they should have checked further into the supply chain but how? The Chinese milkpowder factories aren't going to welcome Europeans snooping around and proudly show them the additives. :dogeye:
Winston001 (3612)
707532 2008-09-24 23:44:00 Spot on Winston! johcar (6283)
707533 2008-09-24 23:53:00 All Fonterra have done is been naive . They were minority investors, trusted their Chinese partners, and its turned out to be a bad investment .

You and I could make the same mistake - it happens every day . People go into business as silent partners with friends, family members etc only to later find out the people they trusted are dishonest or incompetent .

It seems that this bulking up of milk-powder with additives is a widespread practise in Asia . It is a scandal, a shock, but nothing to do with Fonterra .

Yes, in hindsight they should have checked further into the supply chain but how? The Chinese milkpowder factories aren't going to welcome Europeans snooping around and proudly show them the additives . :dogeye:


Am not quite sure that I would use the word 'naive' . Amongst those who have had business dealings with China for several years, it is known (or was known) that the procedure is often very different to dealing with most Western countries . Because this matter of concerns health, the different standards are felt far more widely than, say, importing or exporting other non-consumable goods .

Our safety standards are often only better because of regulation . People are people, no matter which country they are from . Good and bad everywhere .

I agree that they aren't going to welcome 'busybody' Europeans snooping around, but even in that country it does indicate they know they may have something to hide .

Just my humble opinion .
Marnie (4574)
707534 2008-09-25 00:32:00 Force feed the buggers their own contaminated milk. Make em crap kidney stones.

Once that's done, execute them.
bob_doe_nz (92)
707535 2008-09-25 01:21:00 Double post Sue (33)
707536 2008-09-25 01:25:00 Nobody paid for thousands of cats and dogs who were poisoned last year with Chinese melamine. It was added to pet food ingredients to increase the protein levels, exported to the USA then reexported all over the world by the USA. The big name pet food manufacturers spent more time denying it then buck passing rather than helping all the heartbroken pet owners who were paying megabucks to their vets to help their pets in kidney failure.
Maybe the Chinese will shoot the odd fall guy but the main money hungry bastards will get away with it yet again.
Real Protein is expensive so cost cutting will continue one way or another.
Sue (33)
707537 2008-09-25 02:08:00 Nobody paid for thousands of cats and dogs who were poisoned last year with Chinese melamine. It was added to pet food ingredients to increase the protein levels, exported to the USA then reexported all over the world by the USA. The big name pet food manufacturers spent more time denying it then buck passing rather than helping all the heartbroken pet owners who were paying megabucks to their vets to help their pets in kidney failure.
Maybe the Chinese will shoot the odd fall guy but the main money hungry bastards will get away with it yet again.
Real Protein is expensive so cost cutting will continue one way or another.
I'm just glad I wasn't feeding my dog any of the affected brands.

I agree there will be nothing to stop the Chinese from adding crap in food to fool nutritional tests or bulk up weight. They are only motivated by greed derived from being surrounded by too many rival businesses, which in turn is caused by gross overpopulation.

I myself stay the hell away from most Asian-made 'modern' medicines and toothpaste or mouth gargle. Milk is obviously from good ol' NZ, so there's no worry there. Food that came from China must be approved by my mother (she has this knack for telling which ones are good or bad). A few years ago she stopped buying canned Chinese luncheon meat a month before it was uncovered by the media that the Chinese butchers were using ill pigs killed by diseases and not healthy butchered pigs.

And one more thing I won't touch with a world-long pole is any Chinese made pet food. I know for a fact too many Chinese pet food manufacturers couldn't care less about animals and their quality control is no where near the maybe slightly better quality control of foods for human consumption.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
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