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| Thread ID: 93845 | 2008-10-03 01:53:00 | Self defense | SolMiester (139) | PC World Chat |
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| 709485 | 2008-10-03 01:53:00 | What say you to this...... nz.news.yahoo.com cliffs: Store owner fought back police mentioned arrests This so infuriates me. I am the kind of person that thinks society should hit back to stop crimes. The Asian shop keeper appears concerned the police may lay charges against him and his family for defending themselves against these toe rags..... Is it just me, or does this sort of BS from the justice (LOL) dept go against your logic? |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 709486 | 2008-10-03 01:58:00 | Nowhere do the police say they are charging the shop owner. Its a fine line though, defense versus arming themselves with worse weapons........ |
pctek (84) | ||
| 709487 | 2008-10-03 02:13:00 | Tricky situation trying to decide what level of protection you would need considering you wouldnt know what arms the offenders would be using. I say just get the biggest you can afford and hope they dont come at you with a tank. I would be very surprised if police lay charges against the shop owners. It sounds like media spin again. |
sam m (517) | ||
| 709488 | 2008-10-03 02:17:00 | police are merely a cleanup crew, so protect yourself with whatever means you can. however there is a fine line between self defence and attack. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 709489 | 2008-10-03 02:18:00 | When the dairy owner in Chch shot an offender in the face, the police discouraged this behaviour. The police said the 'best' thing to have done would be to obey the offender, get a good description of the offender, and then see which direction they leave. Because the police in NZ are extremely effective, have rapid response times and always catch the offender given an adequate description of their appearance and which direction they ran. When they are caught, they are punished to the full extent of the law. The victim of the crime is compensated completely such that they are no worse off after the crime. The convict is not thrown into a 'resort' prison where they are clothed, fed and entertained, nor are they granted leave to stay at home which they would have done normally. Er, hang on... |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 709490 | 2008-10-03 02:26:00 | When the dairy owner in Chch shot an offender in the face, the police discouraged this behaviour. The police said the 'best' thing to have done would be to obey the offender, get a good description of the offender, and then see which direction they leave. Because the police in NZ are extremely effective, have rapid response times and always catch the offender given an adequate description of their appearance and which direction they ran. When they are caught, they are punished to the full extent of the law. The victim of the crime is compensated completely such that they are no worse off after the crime. The convict is not thrown into a 'resort' prison where they are clothed, fed and entertained, nor are they granted leave to stay at home which they would have done normally. Er, hang on... Er, hang on is right. Not in the NZ Utopian Country. PJ. |
Poppa John (284) | ||
| 709491 | 2008-10-03 02:50:00 | Why would you want to risk your life for stuff? I can understand the guy in Auckland, with saving someone... but this? Couldn't you just get insurance, and save the risk of being killed for some cigarettes and some cash? IMO, he's stupid, and any prosecution should be to discourage people trying this too. If someone is prepared to rob you, theres a greater risk that they've thought through the chance of killing you too. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 709492 | 2008-10-03 02:58:00 | theres a greater risk that they've thought through the chance of killing you too. And theres the even greater risk that we've thought of killing them! Slowly. |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 709493 | 2008-10-03 02:59:00 | Why would you want to risk your life for stuff? I can understand the guy in Auckland, with saving someone... but this? Couldn't you just get insurance, and save the risk of being killed for some cigarettes and some cash? IMO, he's stupid, and any prosecution should be to discourage people trying this too. If someone is prepared to rob you, theres a greater risk that they've thought through the chance of killing you too. I think in the instance of Natjev Singh, he complied with the robbers, but was killed anyway, so even obeying may not save your life. If you've obeyed them, given them what they want and they push you further: its just you and them and if its clear they aren't going to leave unless someone has died, sometimes you have to take hostile action and do whatever you could to make sure the dead body isn't yours. |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 709494 | 2008-10-03 03:04:00 | Why would you want to risk your life for stuff? I can understand the guy in Auckland, with saving someone... but this? Couldn't you just get insurance, and save the risk of being killed for some cigarettes and some cash? but rolling over for crims simply encourages them. then its not the odd one robbing you, its every cowardly lowlife. you are now easy pickings and regarded lower than dirt and they will not hesitate to kill you just for the hell of it. give them an inch and they will take a mile. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
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