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| Thread ID: 93943 | 2008-10-07 21:29:00 | Noahs Ark. Where did all the water go? | Happy Harry (321) | PC World Chat |
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| 710439 | 2008-10-08 01:07:00 | Its a collection of writings which were chosen to fit a preconceived religion. Thats why, depending on which bible you are talking about, may have more or less "books" in it. A few that ddn't get approved: www.carm.org |
pctek (84) | ||
| 710440 | 2008-10-08 02:50:00 | Given that I'm not even sure if there is a god, I'll go with the mankind bit. That doesn't mean that it's not an interesting document, with some profound truths. I just think atheists can be snooty about the bible being illogical, whilst completely missing the point. It just makes them look like arses really. If you really want to dispute something, how about you actually read and study it first? Then maybe you'll have an informed point, rather than just laughing at other peoples beliefs without really knowing what you're on about. I think the other way where religion folk are 'snooty' trying to 'spread the word' into schools, politics etc. Granted some is well intentioned, but a belief in star wars has more credibilty then some cosmic zombie and talking burning bushes and an ark with 2 of every animal aboard etc I dont think people laugh at it really, they just cant understand why someone chooses to believe in these things when the person who does make your life better or worse is the person doing the believing. Dont know if any of that made sense:waughh: |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 710441 | 2008-10-08 03:37:00 | The most dangerous thing in the world: partially evolved monkeys that believe they were made by a god and have a book to prove it. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 710442 | 2008-10-08 03:50:00 | I think the other way where religion folk are 'snooty' trying to 'spread the word' into schools, politics etc . Granted some is well intentioned, but a belief in star wars has more credibilty then some cosmic zombie and talking burning bushes and an ark with 2 of every animal aboard etc I dont think people laugh at it really, they just cant understand why someone chooses to believe in these things when the person who does make your life better or worse is the person doing the believing . Dont know if any of that made sense:waughh: If you treat it as poetry, I find that helps . It doesn't need to be credible, all it needs to do is make a point . Lots wife wasn't really turned into a pillar of salt, and if you believe that you're a lunatic, but instead that story is about obeying direct commandments, and the importance of having faith . Goliath doesn't need to be seen as a literal giant, but could be seen as a shepherd fighting successfully against the oppression of his people . It's all a mixture of common sense, explaining the (then) unexplainable, social commentary, social reform, and some good stories . The bible doesn't need to be taken literally, and shouldn't be in my view . Just because some of isn't plausible, that doesn't mean you can't take a message away from it . And it doesn't mean that it has no value . It's not meant to displace actual science, as it was a precursor to the understanding that we have today . Apart from just metaphor, the bible is prone to exaggeration . Things that actually did happen in some capacity are made larger (in some cases, far larger) for the sake of telling a good story . Some times the plain old facts are just that . Plain . |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 710443 | 2008-10-08 04:28:00 | If you treat it as poetry, I find that helps. It doesn't need to be credible, Lmao, Its believed to be the word of God.The truth. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 710444 | 2008-10-08 04:39:00 | Lmao, Its believed to be the word of God.The truth. God would have written the bible with appendices and numbered instructions if it were the truth. And nobody says it was written word for word from god, otherwise who the hell would the apostles be? Glorified scribes? The Hebrews wrote in poetry, and it's been translated through three languages (at least), over two thousand years. Open minds needed here. I don't believe most of it, but it's not as simple as all that. There wouldn't be any need for priests or ministers if it was just absolutely literal. If it were just the truth you could just open it up and read "you shouldn't wear thin ties, or dress like an emo. also, those new high riding jeans make your arse look fat. thus saith the lord". |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 710445 | 2008-10-08 04:39:00 | The water came from the devil and by godly act was made into holy water, until the bottom fell out of things and the place took a bath. Then, since God didn't pay the water rates, the water ceased to be holy and was re-possessed. Ask God if you don't believe me. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 710446 | 2008-10-08 04:45:00 | If you treat it as poetry, I find that helps. It doesn't need to be credible, all it needs to do is make a point. Lots wife wasn't really turned into a pillar of salt, and if you believe that you're a lunatic, but instead that story is about obeying direct commandments, and the importance of having faith. Goliath doesn't need to be seen as a literal giant, but could be seen as a shepherd fighting successfully against the oppression of his people. It's all a mixture of common sense, explaining the (then) unexplainable, social commentary, social reform, and some good stories. The bible doesn't need to be taken literally, and shouldn't be in my view. Just because some of isn't plausible, that doesn't mean you can't take a message away from it. And it doesn't mean that it has no value. And this looks like yet another man's interpretation.... You write that down and publish it and you'll have yet another schism in a few decades, perhaps promoting you as the latest 'prophet'... It's not meant to displace actual science, as it was a precursor to the understanding that we have today. Tell that to the bible-belters in the mid-west of the USA who want to supplant the teaching of evolution and other science with bible teachings!!! "If it's in the Bible, it must be true" :waughh: Apart from just metaphor, the bible is prone to exaggeration. Things that actually did happen in some capacity are made larger (in some cases, far larger) for the sake of telling a good story. Some times the plain old facts are just that. Plain. Unfortunately, it's not sold (I'm not talking retail here, more marketing...) as a book of stories. Many people do believe it to be the literal truth, like my sister-in-law, who believes, like Sarah Palin, that the Earth is just a few thousand years old. Ignorant, and no amount of discussion will shift those views. |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 710447 | 2008-10-08 04:47:00 | :confused: :confused: The bible tells us that after the 40 days and nights of rain (deluge) and the whole world being covered entirely, to a great depth, in water, the floods receded and Noah and the animals went two by two on their merry way . But where did all the water go? It can’t have drained into the oceans and seas because they were at the same level as the water over the rest of the world It can’t have evaporated into the atmosphere, as that much water would have clouded the skies and shut down the sun rays and all the water would have fallen back to flood the whole world again . I am perplexed, is the bible wrong? I suppose I should thank god that I’m an atheist and do not have to worry about such things HH You think that is tough to reconcile? Apparently there was a virgin conception . And a lady who turned into salt . And a town where people simultaneously started speaking in different languages . And it goes on . . . . |
joemac (9739) | ||
| 710448 | 2008-10-08 04:49:00 | And nobody says it was written word for word from god, otherwise who the hell would the apostles be? Glorified scribes? . That's it in a nutshell, God used the hand of man to write his book, divine inspiration . Go to any Church, They will tell you . Though expect them to burn you at the stake when you tell them its to be treated as poetry . Its the book of all knowledge, The way, The truth, the word of God . Stronger and more truthful then any science . But hey, what would they know, They just based their entire lives around the book . |
Metla (12) | ||
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