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| Thread ID: 94290 | 2008-10-23 01:31:00 | Political Correctness | Happy Harry (321) | PC World Chat |
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| 714083 | 2008-10-23 07:35:00 | Define "New Zealanders" please. People with NZ residency in NZ or hold NZ citizenship |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 714084 | 2008-10-23 07:36:00 | All of the people who signed the original Geneva Convention are dead. Should we start ignoring that too? Totally different scenario |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 714085 | 2008-10-23 07:57:00 | Totally different scenario In what particular is it a different scenario? |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 714086 | 2008-10-24 01:43:00 | One of them works, the other just creates controversy. Different enough for ya? | ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 714087 | 2008-10-24 02:46:00 | One of them works, the other just creates controversy. Different enough for ya? Translation: "Because I say so." Would you say you could ignore your tenancy agreement just because you're bored of it? It's kind of the same thing. Or if you put all of your stuff in a storage lockup, and they decided they didn't want to know you anymore. You'd be pretty pissed off. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 714088 | 2008-10-24 03:07:00 | When did they just invent millions of new clauses and behaviour (all quite racist as well I might add) based on The Spirit of the Geneva Convention? The treaty had its time and place, That time has passed, It was never a document designed to be used and abused as it is today. Though I'm willing to further consider the arguments put forward about suffering and hardship as soon as those affected hand back all the education,health, housing,food and CASH they have enjoyed and wasted since colonisation, after all, They weren't written into the treaty, and that is the over ruling document on everything is it not? |
Metla (12) | ||
| 714089 | 2008-10-24 03:09:00 | I don't quite know how we got from Political Correctness to The Treaty of Waitangi, but for most people who have never read it, follow this http: I have read this several times and still cannot see what the fuss is about. It would be interesting to see a literal Maori to English translation?? Argue with the correct information I say! Cheers |
Happy Harry (321) | ||
| 714090 | 2008-10-24 03:12:00 | I don't quite know how we got from Political Correctness to The Treaty of Waitangi, but for most people who have never read it, follow this http: I have read this several times and still cannot see what the fuss is about. It would be interesting to see a literal Maori to English translation?? Argue with the correct information I say! Cheers Most of the trouble (all of the trouble?) is to do with the maori version being incorrectly translated on purpose. So yeah, it would be interesting to see them side by side. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 714091 | 2008-10-24 03:13:00 | Article the First The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand and the separate and independent Chiefs who have not become members of the Confederation cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty which the said Confederation or Individual Chiefs respectively exercise or possess, or may be supposed to exercise or to possess over their respective Territories as the sole Sovereigns thereof. Article the Second Her Majesty the Queen of England confirms and guarantees to the Chiefs and Tribes of New Zealand and to the respective families and individuals thereof the full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their Lands and Estates Forests Fisheries and other properties which they may collectively or individually possess so long as it is their wish and desire to retain the same in their possession; but the Chiefs of the United Tribes and the individual Chiefs yield to Her Majesty the exclusive right of Preemption over such lands as the proprietors thereof may be disposed to alienate at such prices as may be agreed upon between the respective Proprietors and persons appointed by Her Majesty to treat with them in that behalf. Article the Third In consideration thereof Her Majesty the Queen of England extends to the Natives of New Zealand Her royal protection and imparts to them all the Rights and Privileges of British Subjects. W HOBSON Lieutenant Governor. Now therefore We the Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand being assembled in Congress at Victoria in Waitangi and We the Separate and Independent Chiefs of New Zealand claiming authority over the Tribes and Territories which are specified after our respective names, having been made fully to understand the Provisions of the foregoing Treaty, accept and enter into the same in the full spirit and meaning thereof: in witness of which we have attached our signatures or marks at the places and the dates respectively specified. Done at Waitangi this Sixth day of February in the year of Our Lord One thousand eight hundred and forty. [Here follow signatures, dates, etc.] |
Metla (12) | ||
| 714092 | 2008-10-24 03:56:00 | The problem with the above,is that it is a reasoned proposal. With this we will not upwith put. |
Cicero (40) | ||
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