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Thread ID: 94163	2008-10-17 04:34:00	Router Dropping connection frequently.. Help Appreciated!	StanSkeet (14244)	PC World Chat

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712827	2008-10-19 21:07:00	We've got a Belkin Wireless G adsl router here and it's a dire piece of crap. My desktop is connected by cat6 cable to it - but with wireless it keeps dropping the connection every so often for no apparent reason. Maybe Belkin is the Nortons of the wireless router world... Yeah Deane - that's precisely how I feel about Belkins, and if you Google it you will see thousands of other Belkin owners feeling the same. Now I also own a Belkin power board - and that is actually working well, so IMHO not all Belkin products are cr*p, just their routers. sarel	sarel (2490)
712828	2008-10-19 23:31:00	Although it is not necessary to have the router connected through a filter it is normal to do so I'm certainly not an expert on these things but I believe that the purpose of the filter is to "filter out" (ie. remove) the DSL signal, so if you filter the router then it won't be able to connect at all. I have a double adapter where the line comes into my house, and I have the router plugged into one socket, and a filter plugged into the other. The filtered line is then distributed throughout all the phones in the house. It all works fine :)	Nermal (7077)
712829	2008-10-19 23:42:00	What if you use a multifunction printer which is also a fax?? And its got a line in connection (from the phonejack to the printer), and ex connection (for a phone to plug into) Would you still need a filter?? Like this Jack -------------> Line in (on printer) Ex (from printer) -----------> phone The router here (its log) shows its going in and out of sync and reconnecting too. But thats probably Xnet screwing things up (I'm not using wireless tho) The printer will have to go through a filter, then whatever you plug into the printer's other phone port won't need it's own filter. For those of you talking about filtering routers, it is normal to have 2 ports on a filter - one filtered port for the phone & one unfiltered port for the router. It is normal to plug the router into a filter, but the router can not be filtered. Confusing enough for you? :banana	Greven (91)
712830	2008-10-19 23:43:00	The printer is plugged into the filter (its plugged into the phone jack on the filter). And the phone is connected to the ext connection (on the printer) So what I had was fine then, by the looks of it I thought this may have caused the slow down in speed (probably Xnet's prob, not mine) Because the speed was fine (for overseas since Sept last yr, till now, with the above)	Speedy Gonzales (78)
712831	2008-10-20 02:11:00	I'm certainly not an expert on these things but I believe that the purpose of the filter is to "filter out" (ie . remove) the DSL signal, so if you filter the router then it won't be able to connect at all . :) Close, very close, but not quite . For DSL to work properly the router or modem needs to be connected directly across the phone line so that the high frequency DSL signal is not attenuated . Phones connected directly across the line present a low impedance (resistance) to DSL signals and reduce their level, sometimes to the point where the connection is unreliable or will not work at all . Placing a low frequency bandpass/ high frequency blocking filter in series with the phone allows all of the telephone frequencies through but blocks the DSL signal which is high frequency so that it remains at full strength to the router/modem etc . So, you don't actually "filter out" the DSL signal so much as block its access to the phone(s) . Filters are not perfect devices, so they will reduce the level of the DSL signal a little, therefore if you use multiple filters for numerous outlets the effective impedance is reduced by a factor proportional to the number of filters . This is not a good thing, so that is why it is preferable to insert a single good quality filter at the phone line point of entry, or the nearest access point before the first phone outlet, and run a direct feed from there to the input side of the filter (i . e . the naked incoming line) to the router/modem so that it always gets the best signal possible . I have a direct feed in CAT-5E from my filter at the point of entry direct to my router and have never had a drop out, not ever, and speed is always good . It is worth the effort and I'm picking that this will become even more important with ADSL-2 . Cheers Billy 8-{) P . S . Some (lengthy) time back I recall posting full instructions on how to convert a simple DSE plug-in filter into a point of entry filter using only three naked virgins, a piece of wet string, four bottles of Jack Daniels, two Green politicians and the remains of Metla's Ford that dropped its guts on a power pole, so if anybody cares to search for that thread, all will be revealed . (I'm kidding about the Ford)	Billy T (70)
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