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| Thread ID: 94149 | 2008-10-16 16:40:00 | Career advice | george12 (7) | PC World Chat |
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| 712665 | 2008-10-16 20:25:00 | It is pretty much a given that the actual -content- you learn at university (in terms of IT/computer science) is almost irrelevant in the real industry. The point of university is, for me anyway, was to teach me -how- to learn. It may also teach you new ways of thinking (in terms of program design etc), rather than teach you how to program. Once you have mastered 'how to learn', then you'll be able to achieve anything you want. For example say an organisation is looking for a C developer. You only know Java. A company with foresight will know that while you are not an expert C developer -now-, they know you -will- be in 6 months time. While polytechs teach things that are useful in the real world, I feel it is a lot more 'restrictive'; polytech will teach you C#; university will teach you to program well, regardless of programming language. Not that you couldn't learn good programming skills at polytech. So answering your main question, you should simply do what you enjoy and do what interests you. If you enjoy doing it, theres no chance you will fail. |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 712666 | 2008-10-16 20:27:00 | Honestly, I'm not worried what I start off earning. I would consider myself VERY lucky if I start off with $40k. I'm perfectly happy living off the $10k I make from my business, so if I start off on $30k it's not a problem. | george12 (7) | ||
| 712667 | 2008-10-16 20:45:00 | Telecommunications is also an area that interests me. Working with cellphone networks might be something I would like to do. | george12 (7) | ||
| 712668 | 2008-10-16 20:49:00 | It is pretty much a given that the actual -content- you learn at university (in terms of IT/computer science) is almost irrelevant in the real industry. Actually Unis seem more orientated towards programming. Everyone I know who does Networks went to Tech. They do teach you exactly that, years and years ago when I went we did both NT and Novell. Cisco and stuff let the company that hires you put you through them......... |
pctek (84) | ||
| 712669 | 2008-10-17 00:34:00 | I never expected IT to be such low paying, that was a real surprise to see that. My Wife is on over 200k as a head of Human Resources for a medium NZ company, with direct report to the CEO, last time she was under 100K was about 15-18 years ago working in a Bank Branch Err, want to swap wifes (joking of course). :eek: |
dolby digital (5073) | ||
| 712670 | 2008-10-17 08:57:00 | I agree strongly with NOFAM's last paragraph. If you want to get into IT implementation design project work, they are not IT brainboxes. They are just able to work as a team and get things down but in projects things always get delayed and they work over time and into weekends to help address that. A lot of report writing and providing feedback from others may also be required and having them signed off by the project sponsor. Re: Bantu. Yeah .. there are some jobs high paying. HR Manager depending what level if it is the Manager of the Managers of HR. Prob for big public or private orgs thou. But having said that many public organisations the CEO may just earn $250k so it depends but some CEOs may get $700k for larger orgs. Private orgs may pay higher than public thou... From what I know, if you can get into project design work. Yeah the 40-50k is around the starting mark. You may need to do some more entry IT work to get the foot in the door thou before. After some exp in project IT, you get to 60-70k and senior roles are around 80-100k, managers may get 150k, maybe 200k for CIO (chief info officer) who has dealings with general managers / group managers / deputy chief executives (just diff names) and of course have dealings with the CEO itself as well given the CIO is pretty senior itself. Some smaller public orgs may not be as high .. but the 40-50k project work is about the starting range maybe 45k, seniors for that maybe 60-70k, managers 100k maybe, CIO maybe 150k for the smaller orgs... |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 712671 | 2008-10-17 09:37:00 | Telecommunications is also an area that interests me. Working with cellphone networks might be something I would like to do. A friend's brother works for Vodafone. Apparently Voda's video network/server was set up by a team led by him. I forgot what my friend says he earns - but quite recently he turned down a 2 weeks' paid holiday to Japan. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 712672 | 2008-10-17 22:26:00 | There was a job here in Nelson working for a Telecom subsidiary company (you could probably work out who) that was offering a job as a junior help desk assistant salary $35k. I know that's correct as I applied and did not get it, much to my annoyance. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 712673 | 2008-10-17 23:07:00 | I have heard that Vic's IT courses aren't that great. WelTec's ones are (apparently) much better. | jwil1 (65) | ||
| 712674 | 2008-10-18 03:27:00 | I have heard that Vic's IT courses aren't that great. WelTec's ones are (apparently) much better. Any specifics? I'm not very interested in the programming side, so I'm just making sure you're not referring only to those courses. |
george12 (7) | ||
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