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Thread ID: 94310	2008-10-24 04:02:00	The reason to vote Labour (NOT)	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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714365	2008-10-28 03:42:00	I've seen very little evidence of thought from you so far in this thread Cicero. I wonder what will inform your vote? (...and whether you would accept such a remark as yours about your own contribution to democracy.) They say god loves a trier,so you will be in luck from that point of view Deano. Put simply, to me lefties tend to think the government can do things better,righies(like me),believe in the individual and his ability to to get on with it,if left alone by the government. The thinking started of course at the end of the industrial revolution. I have no doubt man and his greed was tough on his workers,but over time if left to even out,unions would form............ Anyway you get the picture,. It's the principle of the individual that seems right to me.True men tend to take advantage on one another and some regulation is necessary,lefties tend to over do that regulation,as can be seen by the current crop of bossy buggers.	Cicero (40)
714366	2008-10-28 03:55:00	Put another way, Cicero: The difference between capitalism and communism is this. With capitalism, man exploits man. With communism, it's the other way around...	johcar (6283)
714367	2008-10-28 04:11:00	Put another way, Cicero: The difference between capitalism and communism is this. With capitalism, man exploits man. With communism, it's the other way around... A view indeed,jaundiced but a view. It's man that exploits,not the system. The Enron affair completely puzzles me,billionaires wanting more,but that is man,it seems.!	Cicero (40)
714368	2008-10-28 04:23:00	I have been having very bad nose bleeding sessions for months. My doctor wrote to Waikato Hospital to arrange an appointment to get the problem fixed. About 7 weeks later he got a letter from the hospital to say, sorry, we dont have any staff that are available to see your client now or in the future. In other words, bugger off. For Labour to say what a wonderful job they have done with health, I say, Liars!!! I also see now that its about one worker to pay for one person on some form of Government handout. Look up, interest.co.nz We are stuffed!!!!!	royaloaks (8205)
714369	2008-10-28 04:36:00	I have been having very bad nose bleeding sessions for months. My doctor wrote to Waikato Hospital to arrange an appointment to get the problem fixed. About 7 weeks later he got a letter from the hospital to say, sorry, we dont have any staff that are available to see your client now or in the future. In other words, bugger off. For Labour to say what a wonderful job they have done with health, I say, Liars!!! I also see now that its about one worker to pay for one person on some form of Government handout. Look up, interest.co.nz We are stuffed!!!!! Ask the missus to hit you somewhere else..That may help.	Cicero (40)
714370	2008-10-28 04:44:00	I know where JK's tax cuts are coming from I see the light. 1) Short term $10 a week in my pay packet means $50000 from my kiwisaver fund nice one JK. 2) Sell NZ's only Kiwi owned bank to someone overseas, nice one JK 3) All politicians are taking a pay cut starting with JK well I can wish 4) Sell off NZ to someone overseas lock stock and barrel. I only hope in a years time all his lovers don't suddenly put their hands up and go but we didn't vote him in. Since it's be nice to the blind week I'm signing out of this thread so I don't insult those blindly following JK	gary67 (56)
714371	2008-10-28 05:19:00	I know where JK's tax cuts are coming from I see the light. 1) Short term $10 a week in my pay packet means $50000 from my kiwisaver fund nice one JK. 2) Sell NZ's only Kiwi owned bank to someone overseas, nice one JK 3) All politicians are taking a pay cut starting with JK well I can wish 4) Sell off NZ to someone overseas lock stock and barrel. I only hope in a years time all his lovers don't suddenly put their hands up and go but we didn't vote him in. Since it's be nice to the blind week I'm signing out of this thread so I don't insult those blindly following JK Sorry to see you go Ga,do let us know what it is like on mars,and do enjoy the trip.	Cicero (40)
714372	2008-10-28 05:59:00	John Key's tax cuts are a no-brainer, $1.92 more than Labour a week, and $30 less on Kiwisaver a week, So for that extra $1.92, you are losing $28. Wow. And at the lose of a lot New Zealand's infrastructure, which Key seems to be preaching a lot about.	Netsukeninja (13296)
714373	2008-10-28 06:08:00	I do worry about John Key's lackys. He does impress me but his team does let him down. I think that his team will be his downfall - either after or before the election.	sam m (517)
714374	2008-10-28 06:43:00	John Key's tax cuts are a no-brainer, $1.92 more than Labour a week, and $30 less on Kiwisaver a week, So for that extra $1.92, you are losing $28. Wow. And at the lose of a lot New Zealand's infrastructure, which Key seems to be preaching a lot about. Do you have any concept of how much compliance and operating costs have shot through the roof under the Labour Government? People that think a business is just a cash cow screwing over the little guys need a good hard dose of reality pie, NZ is a nation of small business being pushed to the wall, And when the business employing the "little guy" suffers then the little guy suffers as well. You ever stop to think that another tax on business isn't in the interest of the country?, including yourself and everyone you know. To run a company you need money left over to put back into infrastructure (gee, there is a revelation for the Labour party), You can't employ 100 more people every month and put up your prices the way the Government runs the country. To be a modern country with good wages and a good standard of living you need healthy companies, and an environment where they can prosper. Plenty of those people that went to Aussie were business owners, Now set up shop over there and employing Aussies instead.	Metla (12)
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