Forum Home
PC World Chat
Thread ID: 94321	2008-10-24 09:53:00	Over-reaction? Tell me who.	johcar (6283)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
714525	2008-10-27 00:51:00	Ah yes, airport security. You think that was bad, try Heathrow three (!) days after that '05 liquid-bomb scare. I was lucky (and smart) enough not to lose anything (packed everything except passport and tickets). But I tell ya, that was insane. The guy next to me had a pen taken off him. We had our shoes x-rayed, and what has to be the most thorough pat-down I've ever had. The guy demanded to know about a piece of fabric attached to my pants (it was the remains of an old pocket). Oh, and the security queue was, quite literally, a mile long (although my imperial is a bit rusty). Yeah, I don't travel much now.	ubergeek85 (131)
714526	2008-10-27 04:40:00	Aha! A happy ending!! Hi John This is Veena, from the Old Melbourne Gaol Crime and Justice Experience. Paul Baron from Tourism Victoria updated us about what happened at the airport. We are sorry that the thumb cuffs have been taken away. We generally, advise our visitors to put the thumb cuffs in their check in baggage to avoid this situation. Our retail manager is more than happy to send your son a new set of thumb cuffs. Please email us your address so that we can mail them to you. (In this instance they didn't advise us to pack them - but in the circumstances, I'm willing to let that go) That's what I call customer service!!!	johcar (6283)
714527	2008-10-27 05:22:00	In terms of airport security, rather they overreacted If you think there are not still people out there who want to blow up planes think again Lifted from Wikipedia On the morning of September 11, 2001, the five hijackers arrived at Dulles International Airport, outside of Washington, D.C. At 07:15, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Majed Moqed checked-in at the American Airlines ticket counter for Flight 77,[17] and they arrived at the passenger security checkpoint a few minutes later at 07:18.[18] Both men set off the metal detector and were put through secondary screening. Moqed continued to set off the alarm, so he was searched with a hand wand.[19] The al-Hazmi brothers checked in together at the ticket counter at 07:29. Hani Hanjour checked in separately, and arrived at the passenger security checkpoint at 07:35.[12] Hanjour was followed minutes later at the checkpoint by Salem and Nawaf al-Hazmi, the latter who set off the metal detector's alarm. The screener at the checkpoint never resolved what set off the alarm. As seen in security footage later released, Nawaf Hazmi appeared to have an unidentified item in his back pocket, but four-inch utility knives were nonetheless permitted by the FAA as carry-on items.[19][17] The passenger security checkpoint at Dulles International Airport was operated by Argenbright Security, under contract with United Airlines.[20] ] No guns, no bombs , just utility knifes. If the passed though present day security , would have they got the knives on the plane ?	Paul Camford (10007)
714528	2008-10-27 05:41:00	Paul, I have no problem with items that any reasonable person could consider being used as a weapon (knives, toy guns and knitting needles fall into this category). What I object to is the warped thinking that includes harmless metal items (as per my experience above) as potential threats to security on board a plane, yet this thinking is not extended to include less obvious items like metal pens. Inconsistency is the bane of common sense.	johcar (6283)
714529	2008-10-27 06:55:00	Johcar, Not saying that it was not over the top I just that I dont know if you can find a balance in how aviation security is handled Go the other way then things will start to slip past that should have not slipped passed	Paul Camford (10007)
714530	2008-10-27 10:21:00	My mother-in-law had her knitting needles confiscated on a local flight once. Now thats a joke. She wouldn't hurt a fly. Possibly it wasn't flies they were worried about. ;)	R2x1 (4628)
714531	2008-10-27 22:41:00	Are you saying we can't think of needles as weapons,your Gran carries them on and passes to a [edit].................??? Well they wouldn't be that effective would they. And my mother-in-law would not hand them to someone else to use. Why don't they stop the carrying on of bottles of liquour. You could smash the bottle and then you have sharp glass to use as a weapon. Also how many hijackings have we had in NZ... 1 was it; the Blenhiem to Christchurch incident. How many people are killed on New Zealand roads per year (400 or so). Whats more dangerous? Confiscate cars I say :rolleyes:	dolby digital (5073)
714532	2008-10-27 22:44:00	Possibly it wasn't flies they were worried about. ;) I've got the answer. No carry on luggage and we have to fly naked so you can't hide anything. Um er... well not without being uncomfortable anyway.	dolby digital (5073)
714533	2008-10-27 22:57:00	Well they wouldn't be that effective would they . And my mother-in-law would not hand them to someone else to use . Why don't they stop the carrying on of bottles of liquor . You could smash the bottle and then you have sharp glass to use as a weapon . Also how many hijackings have we had in NZ . . . 1 was it; the Blenheim to Christchurch incident . How many people are killed on New Zealand roads per year (400 or so) . Whats more dangerous? Confiscate cars I say :rolleyes: Point I was making,(indeed a tricky one to get ones head round)was,that needles could be used as a weapon,I would like to add I didn't envisage you Gran as a terrorist .	Cicero (40)
714534	2008-10-27 23:03:00	Well they wouldn't be that effective would they . And my mother-in-law would not hand them to someone else to use . Why don't they stop the carrying on of bottles of liquour . You could smash the bottle and then you have sharp glass to use as a weapon . Also how many hijackings have we had in NZ . . . 1 was it; the Blenhiem to Christchurch incident . How many people are killed on New Zealand roads per year (400 or so) . Whats more dangerous? Confiscate cars I say :rolleyes: It's not the threat of local terrorism, but if an international flight was hijacked (with enough fuel to go to, say, Singapore), then you've got a global problem . As I understand it, security on domestic flights it still fairly easy . If I remember correctly, a wee while before that nutter tried to hijack that plane, some guy was allowed to bring a rifle on the plane because he didn't want it in the hold (link ( . smh . com . au/news/travel/passenger-carries-rifle-on-plane/2007/03/19/1174152918746 . html" target="_blank">www . smh . com . au)), . Try pulling that now .	ubergeek85 (131)
1 2 3 4