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Thread ID: 94310	2008-10-24 04:02:00	The reason to vote Labour (NOT)	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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714315	2008-10-25 20:30:00	The fact remains,they choose OZ,a tricky one there gary. The point I am making is possibly around 20% of those people leaving had no intention of ever settling here in the first place, but I agree the number leaving is still very high and I'm not convinced either of the main parties have any ideas on how to fix it, from listening to all the bluster coming from Key and Clarke neither deserves my vote. If it was a 2 horse race I certainly wouldn't vote for either of them but since there are others I will vote. Look out Winston my votes coming your way (NOT)	gary67 (56)
714316	2008-10-25 20:49:00	Those (your guess) 20% still tested the waters in NZ and elected to get the hell out for greener pastures. We need to retain these people (who are surely looking for a place to settle and expand) as much as we need to retain anyone else.	Metla (12)
714317	2008-10-25 20:49:00	I thought you had to put a lil peice under your tongue to get to oz?,,,, Don't forget to click your ruby slippers together.... :)	johcar (6283)
714318	2008-10-25 20:55:00	Those (your guess) 20% still tested the waters in NZ and elected to get the hell out for greener pastures. We need to retain these people (who are surely looking for a place to settle and expand) as much as we need to retain anyone else. Yes I agree that we need to retain them, but they had already set their sights on OZ before ever getting here and yes those are my figures rightly or wrongly I would like to know the real figures to see how they compare	gary67 (56)
714319	2008-10-25 20:56:00	The point I am making is possibly around 20% of those people leaving had no intention of ever settling here in the first place, but I agree the number leaving is still very high and I'm not convinced either of the main parties have any ideas on how to fix it, from listening to all the bluster coming from Key and Clarke neither deserves my vote. If it was a 2 horse race I certainly wouldn't vote for either of them but since there are others I will vote. Look out Winston my votes coming your way (NOT)I know the point you are making,but the point is not well taken. People are choosing OZ because they prefer it over NZ and a lot of that is brought about by Helen and her cohorts. Key may not be the best chap to put across the philosophy of the blues,but the fact is along with Rodney they are the ones who believe in less interference by the government. Aside from the banking situation,which all agree is in need of something,but this is common in all countries Russia and China included,I believe the individual will produce what it is we all want,certainly not Helen and co. And so on.	Cicero (40)
714320	2008-10-25 21:04:00	An Australian, a Kiwi and a South African are in a bar one night having a beer . All of a sudden the South African drinks his beer, throws his glass in the air, pulls out a gun and shoots the glass to pieces . 'In Seth Efrika our glasses are so cheap that we don't need to drink from the same one twice,' he says . The Kiwi, obviously impressed by this, drinks his beer, throws his glass into the air, pulls out his gun and shoots the glass to pieces . 'Wull mate, in Noo Zulland we have so much sand to make the glasses that we don't need to drink out the same glass either,' he says . * The Australian, cool as a Koala, picks up his beer and drinks it, throws his glass in the air, pulls out his gun and shoots the South African and the Kiwi . * He turns to the astonished barman and says, 'In Strailya mate, we have so many bloody South Africans and Kiwis that we don't need to drink with the same ones twice . ' Which I think proves my point!Cicero .	Cicero (40)
714321	2008-10-26 06:13:00	I know the point you are making,but the point is not well taken. Not sure if you do NZ doesn't market itself to those people most know little if anything about NZ but a lot about OZ and I don't see any politician offering to do something about it not even the much vaunted on this forum Key	gary67 (56)
714322	2008-10-26 08:19:00	I know the point you are making,but the point is not well taken. People are choosing OZ because they prefer it over NZ and a lot of that is brought about by Helen and her cohorts. Key may not be the best chap to put across the philosophy of the blues,but the fact is along with Rodney they are the ones who believe in less interference by the government. Aside from the banking situation,which all agree is in need of something,but this is common in all countries Russia and China included,I believe the individual will produce what it is we all want,certainly not Helen and co. And so on. Do you have proof that these people are leaving because of Helen? I would have thought they were leaving because of higher wages in Aussie. Pity most of them probably forgot about the higher cost of living.... I personally think Key will interfere alot more than Helen, but I guess time will tell. Your last paragraph confuses me a bit (not hard). Are you saying that no party should be in power?	the_bogan (9949)
714323	2008-10-26 18:09:00	Do you have proof that these people are leaving because of Helen? I would have thought they were leaving because of higher wages in Aussie. Pity most of them probably forgot about the higher cost of living.... I personally think Key will interfere alot more than Helen, but I guess time will tell. Your last paragraph confuses me a bit (not hard). Are you saying that no party should be in power? They are leaving for higher wages because Helen with the her gang have governed in such a way,that wages have not risen here. Do remember the best are leaving and can work out it's not just wages that are better. Key who is an expert on markets,knows better than to interfere in our ability to produce. Just ask someone who has to deal with the red tape of producing. Helen and Cullen would have been right at home in Russia in it's hey day.	Cicero (40)
714324	2008-10-26 19:45:00	Helen and Cullen would have been right at home in Russia in it's hey day. That remark is evidence that you know as much about communism/bolshevism as you do about Labour policy. Every policy announcement I hear from John Key contains more detail about how much money a National government would spend. So where will this money come from I wonder? Not from tax cuts.	Deane F (8204)
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