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| Thread ID: 94612 | 2008-11-05 07:37:00 | Very sick Judge! | royaloaks (8205) | PC World Chat |
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| 717841 | 2008-11-09 22:09:00 | How does one become a judge? Is it like the ultimate lawyer type??? | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 717842 | 2008-11-09 22:10:00 | I was responding to some idiot who thought politicians should be able to sack judges. The public should be able to. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 717843 | 2008-11-10 01:16:00 | How does one become a judge? Is it like the ultimate lawyer type??? In all cases you are invited. For District Court judges, you must be a barrister and solicitor of good standing for at least 7 years - though in practice it is normally far longer than this. To be eligible to become a High Court judge you must be a barrister and solicitor of good standing for at least 20 years. District Court judges are seldom elevated to the High Court bench - it isn't a matter of becoming a District Court judge and being "promoted". If you have the talent for the Hight Court then you are appointed to that court in the first instance. Barristers Sole (such as Queen's Counsel) have formerly not been eligible to be appointed to the bench - but the Queens Counsel status has recently been changed to "Senior Counsel" which will allow solicitors of repute to be elevated to the bench. The Solicitor General makes the appointment on the recommendation of several parties in the legal community - and to get on the list of candidates you are normally recommended by somebody else. You don't "apply"... Generally speaking though, a candidate is normally aware of being recommended and wouldn't be put on the list unless they are interested in becoming a judge. For lawyers of sufficient stature to be considered for the bench, taking a judicial salary ($220,000 - $300,000) is quite a step down from what a lawyer of that standing would normally be earning. They don't do it for the money, that's for sure. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 717844 | 2008-11-10 02:05:00 | Still a nice pay packet. Must be an unusual job. It looks almost like an exclusive club type of job. Would high court judge be seen as the ultimate goal? |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 717845 | 2008-11-10 05:10:00 | Still a nice pay packet. Maybe, but then most corporate lawyers, for example, when they have reached the level of experience such that they might be considered for the bench, would be earning $1,000,000+ per annum. A senior criminal lawyer might be billing out at $600 per hour or more, with something like 100 billable hours for a case - plus expenses. Must be an unusual job. It looks almost like an exclusive club type of job. Perhaps it is an exclusive club type job - but it comes with quite a few restrictions that do not exist for the average person in the street. Judges may, and are, criticised constantly (and so they should be) - but they cannot respond to criticism. I do not envy them their jobs. While lawyers can argue away all they like to judges in a court, it is the judges who must actually decide the case at the end of the arguments. When one spends the time considering this fact it takes on a bit of weight. Their decisions are expected to be correct in nearly every instance - taking into account previous like decisions based on the principle that like cases ought to be treated alike (the doctrine of stare decisis). And in a lot of cases there are very real and lasting repercussions of a judge's decision for the people involved. If they hear a case they cannot step aside from that responsibility - they must decide, and decide correctly. Would high court judge be seen as the ultimate goal? Perhaps for some. I'm not sure many people enter the profession of law with the intention of becoming a judge though. It takes a certain kind of mind, I think. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 717846 | 2008-11-10 07:20:00 | I love the thought of hard punishments for re offenders and for any major crimes but I don't trust the legal system. Too many dodgy lawyers. What if some one who did not commit the crime was found guilty, what if they were " strung up" killed for a crime that they did not commit. You hear of people who are found to be innocent after serving years in prison ...... If he was put to death .......... too late. I wouldn't want to be that person who had to be 100% sure of their guilt, 100% sure they deserved to die .... that' s a huge deal. I think prison needs to be the punishment. Make the buggers wake at 5am and break damn rocks till they fall down, so dead tired that all they can do is eat their crappy meal and sleep .......... then make them do it again and again and again .... for how ever many years they are suppose to serve. I don't get why our jails aren't like that ..... seems simple to me ....... :punk |
never-u-mind (6500) | ||
| 717847 | 2008-11-10 09:05:00 | I think at least one good change would be for prison sentences to be described in such a way that it is clear how much time that person might actually serve. Only a vanishingly small percentage of prisoners serve the whole of the sentence they were handed. For instance, in the case of Shipton, rather than saying he was sentenced to 8 years, announce instead that he is being sentenced to 3.5 to 4.5 years imprisonment - (with a maximum of eight years available to the Dept of Corrections/Probation Service for carrying out his sentence). |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 717848 | 2008-11-10 09:11:00 | Still a nice pay packet. Must be an unusual job. It looks almost like an exclusive club type of job. Would high court judge be seen as the ultimate goal? Supreme Court, then next down is Court of Appeal They sure do earn it. Can you imagine the amount of stress? What about when you get it wrong? Not to mention having to have an immaculate knowledge of the law. Lawyers prepare beforehand, judges have to deal with what they're given. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 717849 | 2008-11-10 18:08:00 | Not to mention having to have an immaculate knowledge of the law. Lawyers prepare beforehand, judges have to deal with what they're given. Judges prepare too - that's what they have clerks for, to do research and to find judgments that are on point with the case the judge is hearing. A judge also gets a pretty fair idea from pre-trial applications what sort of arguments they are going to hear. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 717850 | 2008-11-10 19:19:00 | To me it would be stressful.... but no more stressful then any other service job. Just more power to make a differance. This is the part that is not happening at the moment. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
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