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1445464	2018-01-27 22:31:00	Ok guys, something a bit different. It may be helpful if you had a bit of background on the matter so here goes. Every week and old Boss and myself meet for a couple of drinks, reminisce and tell a few lies. Last week when the Boss arrived he had a backpack from which he produced a laptop, placed it on the leaner and said “Here, fix this for me will you”! (some things never change). :D (He’s 87 by the way and just got out of hospital following a Brain Bleed, which in turn followed a fall.) Anyway, I turn it on and it boots into Fedora. Well that does it, I know absolutely nothing about Fedora and tell him so. No problem he announces and dives back into his Backpack and hauls out the Fedora Manual. 1300 f'n pages no less and advises me that “I’ll find what I want to know in there!” :eek: 8665 Cutting to the chase, the damn thing is now sitting on my desk, surprise, surprise. :groan: So, to get started: The Laptop is a HP ProBook 6550b which might be relevant later. I note GRUB starts processes, there is more than one OS, and Mint appears to be one of them, but, it doesn’t give me time to select it. So for starters how do I hold the Grub Boot Screen long enough to read what’s there? Also, how do I edit GRUB to boot from Mint by default, assuming it is actually there? :confused:	B.M. (505)
1445465	2018-01-27 23:17:00	Did you read the book?	Driftwood (5551)
1445466	2018-01-27 23:21:00	According to a google search many suggest holding down the shift key. but a bit like some BIOS timing can be tricky, you have to get it just at the right time. if you want to boot another system then Holding down Shift while booting get to the normal grub menu to select a system Also found this change-grub-boot-order-linux-mint-ubuntu/ (www.pcsteps.com) But may pay to wait for the Linux experts to advise ;)	wainuitech (129)
1445467	2018-01-28 09:26:00	Is there data that needs to be retrieved or does it just need to be made to work? because the easiest thing would be to just wipe it and reinstall Fedora and/or Mint both of which are generally up and running fairly quickly. I know it's a bit of an extreme approach but honestly you could spend days on this thing or a couple hours reinstalling. And if there are files to retrieve a live CD might make them accessible unless linux is encrypted.	dugimodo (138)
1445468	2018-01-29 09:14:00	Using Grub Customizer (what Wainui suggested) certainly works and I used it myself a few years ago. I abandond it eventually because it really adds another layer of complexity that I just didn't feel was necessary. I pretty much agree with the original poster in this thread on the Mint forum: forums.linuxmint.com IMHO I have found editing Grub via the /etc/default/grub file simpler once you learn a little about what the options are and how to apply them.	Rod J (451)
1445469	2018-01-31 03:44:00	Using Grub Customizer (what Wainui suggested) certainly works and I used it myself a few years ago. I abandond it eventually because it really adds another layer of complexity that I just didn't feel was necessary. I pretty much agree with the original poster in this thread on the Mint forum: forums.linuxmint.com IMHO I have found editing Grub via the /etc/default/grub file simpler once you learn a little about what the options are and how to apply them. Thanks Rod. A quick update. I installed GRUB Customizer from Daniel Richter and whilst it installed and loaded no problem and did the adjustments as expected, it simply wouldn’t Save the adjusted settings. So, I thought I’d take a look with gparted to see if I could see anything. There I found Fedora had a padlock showing beside it which I figured meant it was somehow locked in as default OS. Pure guesswork. Anyway, I figured 4 OS’s was nonsense for a nearly blind 87yo so with his permission I formatted the drive and installed Mint 18.2 Cinnamon. So far no problems, but it is still on my desk and I’m sure if anyone can find a weakness in the system he can. Just as an aside, with Fedora if I tilted the laptop fractionally one way or other the screen would change orientation even to upside down. I can’t see anything in the laptops specifications that suggests it has this facility so I’m completely at a loss. However, the issue seems to have disappeared since the format and re-installation.	B.M. (505)
1445470	2018-01-31 04:44:00	Just as an aside, with Fedora if I tilted the laptop fractionally one way or other the screen would change orientation even to upside down. :confused: :illogical Every week and old Boss and myself meet for a couple of drinks. OK B.M tell the truth, just HOW MANY of those discussion drinks did you really have while working on the laptop, sure you didn't lean to far and fall off the chair :D 8669	wainuitech (129)
1445471	2018-01-31 06:45:00	:confused: :illogical OK B.M tell the truth, just HOW MANY of those discussion drinks did you really have while working on the laptop, sure you didn't lean to far and fall off the chair :D 8669 :lol: Don't worry I was thinking the same thing but having never experienced the phenomena previously I did a bit of Googleing and came up with THIS (www.youtube.com) Seems others have been on the same Turps. :D Now to have a play and see if Mint can pull these tricks. :devil	B.M. (505)
1445472	2018-01-31 07:00:00	Yep, rotating the screen is a good trick, had many a call asking how to fix that. There's a better on for April Fools -- Actually several. :devil:devil SWMBO played one prank on a lady at work, LOL the poor lady though she was going nuts :waughh:	wainuitech (129)
1445473	2018-01-31 18:52:00	I pretty much agree with the original poster in this thread on the Mint forum: forums.linuxmint.com . I agree with the last one. But there is a bit of snobbery in the Linux forums, if you prefer a gui tool, you're worthless. Must terminal only. meh, I think it's a choice, some are great tools, some are not, but dismissing the lot, nah....it's what will increase market share of it.	piroska (17583)
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