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| Thread ID: 145895 | 2018-02-24 03:32:00 | Climate Change Interview | rumpty (2863) | PC World Chat |
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| 1446629 | 2018-02-25 23:55:00 | "They all confirm the original hockey stick conclusion: the 20th century is the warmest in the last 1000 years and that warming was most dramatic after 1920." Ok, but so what . So we now agree that climate change is real, and human activites are most definitely contributing to it, in an extreme way? Good. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1446630 | 2018-02-26 00:02:00 | What Impeccable Credentials your lot have? :lol: 8709 Right, given you seem to be running away from replying to this, I'll make my best guess as to what you meant. I can only guess that you believe that, as the site is run by volunteers, none of them know what they are talking about. Well, I've got news for you. Being a volunteer means you don't get paid for something, not that you are incompetant. If you've got the guts, try walking up to a volunteer fire brigade and telling them they're incompetant due to their volunteer status. Now, lets look at some of the people who contribute - www.skepticalscience.com Notice something? Many of them are scientists Hopefully people will see your post for what it was - a truly disgusting attempt at lying. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1446631 | 2018-02-26 01:25:00 | Notice something? Many of them are scientists Who are dependent on the climate change/global warming/whatever they are calling it this week gravy train to continue to provide research grants to keep them in the style to which they have become accustomed. Nobody suggests that there is no climate change. No reputable scientist will try to tell you that "The Science is Settled" just that it is the best guess given current information. Most of the talking heads, on TV in particular, are just that, talking heads with few if any qualifications in the field of climate science. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1446632 | 2018-02-26 01:55:00 | Heaven forbid we trust someone who get's paid to do something as a living to be the expert at that subject. Far better we trust all the amateurs and people from other fields yeah? I don't doubt there's fudging going on, and on both sides of the argument. I'm long since done with trying to convince anyone about global warming, minds have been made up and no one is budging. What I will say is most of the arguments against global warming being significantly affected by us that I've seen focus on attacking the science and methods of others without presenting much in the way of an alternative. Even some of B.M.s links to people supporting his view you can note that they won't outright come out and say no it's not happening, in fact several times they admit that it is and then argue about the degree and significance. I also see that a lot of different arguments get lumped together as if they are the same topic. My personal summary: Is the climate changing - of course, always Are we affecting it - again of course, always. Everything on the planet effects the climate. How significant is our contribution and can we do anything about it - (should that be 2 questions) inconclusive, but there is a large consensus that there is reason for concern and it would be wise to take pre emptive measures Will carbon tax have a meaningful impact on climate change - again, inconclusive. My personal view is this is a different question from the previous ones and I'm not a supporter of carbon tax And finally, is ignoring the whole thing and carrying on as before a good Idea? - Personally I don't think so, but I don't think carbon tax makes much sense either. Be nice to see some actual alternatives investigated. Politicians go to method for controlling the consumption of anything is to tax it, they don't seem to have any other answer. To be fair it has been shown to work in many cases, but is it the right approach to dealing with the climate? |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1446633 | 2018-02-26 02:59:00 | "They all confirm the original hockey stick conclusion: the 20th century is the warmest in the last 1000 years and that warming was most dramatic after 1920." Unfortunately 1101 you have missed the point that in the last 100 years Earth’s temperature has risen less than 1ºC with significant periods of no rise at all. Then, we now have Climate Scientists insisting that the optimum earth’s temperature would be 2ºC warmer than at present. Talk about “Much to do about Nothing”. 8712 Imagine if all us humans took ourselves off to Hospital every time our temperature rose 1ºC. :waughh: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1446634 | 2018-02-26 03:16:00 | How about you grow a pair and elaborate on what you meant in post #11? Coward. Also, given you quoted the IPCC, I take it you consider them a reliable source. Here's another quote from the IPCC. “Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13 (climate.nasa.gov) “Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1446635 | 2018-02-26 03:19:00 | Heaven forbid we trust someone who get's paid to do something as a living to be the expert at that subject. Far better we trust all the amateurs and people from other fields yeah? climate.nasa.gov www.opr.ca.gov I think the position of the paid experts is pretty clear. :) |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1446636 | 2018-02-26 04:01:00 | Nick 1 (at least) Clive & B.M. 0 |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1446637 | 2018-02-26 04:17:00 | climate.nasa.gov And just like the rest of their calculations this is how they were done. 8713 :lol: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1446638 | 2018-02-26 04:34:00 | GEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS No wonder the place is heating up . With all the hot air being spouted by people disagreeing ( including this forum) with any climate changes, its more than likely accelerating faster than it would naturally . With that hit and run comment ------- I'll go back to watching the tennis :D :p :lol: |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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