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| Thread ID: 150601 | 2022-04-17 00:38:00 | Biuilding a new PC | Tony (4941) | Press F1 |
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| 1485594 | 2022-04-17 05:54:00 | Not the best time to be building a new PC as it's right smang bang in the middle of releases from the main players. There are 3 options; 1)Go Intel 12th Gen Pros Decent performance Decent price Your system will have decent longevity (3-4 years) Cons It's a recent platform and thus not embedded into current software/hardware ecosystem so expect bugs It is expensive thanks to DDR5 - the high transfer rates of DDR5 may be awesome but they come at a hefty price. 2) Wait for AMD's new AM5 platform Pros Good performance and likley better than Intel's 12th Gen offering Pricing will likely also be competitive with Intel Your system will have decent longetivity (3-4 years) Cons It's a recent platform and thus not embedded into current software/hardware ecosystem so expect bugs It will be expensive thanks to DDR5 3) Build an AM4/X570 system Pros Great proven performance Great pricing (motherboards/CPU's/DDR4 which will only get lower as 12th Gen "matures" and will also be driven down with the pending AM5 release System stability - AM4/B550/X570 - is mature and stable so less prone to bugginess - notwithstanding Windows 11 Cons Not the latest tech Buying into AM4 this late will mean a complete platform change potentially in 2-3 years (maybe less depending on how great AM5 is) |
chiefnz (545) | ||
| 1485595 | 2022-04-17 05:58:00 | personally i try to get the best chipset i can. budget chipsets tend to give the most problems. not saying you have to get super gamer one, but just a basic one built around the better chipsets.OK, how/where do I compare chipsets? |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1485596 | 2022-04-17 06:01:00 | So when is AM5 expected? You say pricing will be competitive with Intel, but it is likely to be more expensive than AM4 - right? I've been an AMD person for a long time, for no particular reason except price. What external changes am I likely to see if I do change to Intel? |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1485597 | 2022-04-17 14:40:00 | So when is AM5 expected? You say pricing will be competitive with Intel, but it is likely to be more expensive than AM4 - right? I've been an AMD person for a long time, for no particular reason except price. What external changes am I likely to see if I do change to Intel? That's a tricky question.... regarding the pricing... AM4 products will get a price cut (mainly from retailers to make room for the AM5 stuff) but the "price hike" for AM5 will need to be competitive enough to tempt consumers to spend the extra $$$ on AM5 rather than the marked down AM4 (or Intel for that matter) - though either way AMD wins regardless of which AMD product the consumer goes for. You may get better advice if you let us know what you're running now? The "external" changes are not really relevant.... the socket architecture is different (i.e. the number of pins likely to be different) but that's where it will end really. Both AM5 and the new Intel Alder Lake run or will be running DDR5/PCI-E 5.0 - the only other thing I can think of is that the Intel platform will likely support Thunderbolt 4.0, AMD doesn't "support" this natively as it's an "Intel" innovation. |
chiefnz (545) | ||
| 1485598 | 2022-04-17 14:58:00 | AM5 is expected to be released in June 2022 | chiefnz (545) | ||
| 1485599 | 2022-04-17 20:43:00 | Here is my current config: Mobo: ASUS A88XPLUS CPU: 4.13 gigahertz AMD A8-7650K Radeon R7 RAM: 8 gig Display adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Disks: Several - mix of SSD and HDD As you can see, I don't change my hardware very often! IF AM5 isn't coming out till June I'll probably stick with AM4. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1485600 | 2022-04-17 22:00:00 | I'm starting on the project of building a new PC, and I'm a bit stuck on what mobo I should get. Up till now I've usually ended up with ASUS, but I'm not wedded to that. Form factor is ATX. Decide on the CPU first. Then look at the motherboard. I'd stick with ASUS or Gigabyte. That narrows it down quite a bit. As you say, ATX, that cuts it further. Look at Toms for performance: www.tomshardware.com You'd want the best (For budget) you can find. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1485601 | 2022-04-17 22:16:00 | Decide on the CPU first. Then look at the motherboard. I'd stick with ASUS or Gigabyte. That narrows it down quite a bit. As you say, ATX, that cuts it further. Look at Toms for performance: www.tomshardware.com You'd want the best (For budget) you can find. Thanks Piroska, that's all good stuff. I will check Tom's hardware; that is usually good advice. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1485602 | 2022-04-18 05:01:00 | If you're seriously thinking about AM4 then I'd look into something like the 5600X/5700G and if you can snag a decent bargain the 5800X would be a good "long term" option. For the motherboard I 2nd Piroska's suggestions of either Gigabyte or Asus runing the X570/X570S chipset. If you can manage it get an Aorus variant from Gigabyte and for Asus, look into a STRIX, TUF or PRIME variant (in that order) - Stay away from the Asus CSM product line. |
chiefnz (545) | ||
| 1485603 | 2022-04-19 05:56:00 | Thanks everyone for the advice, but it looks like the project is going to be on the back burner for a while. I've just been told my worm farm septic system is falling apart and is no longer supported by Biolytix, the manufacturer. So I won't be using them for any replacement, and I recommend you don't either. Whatever new septic system I end up with is going to cost megabucks, so a new nice-to-have PC will just have to wait. Who knows, when I revisit it, AM5 will be out and affordable - yeah right. |
Tony (4941) | ||
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