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719410	2008-11-11 02:51:00	Test Centre benchmarks: Windows 7 unmasked By Randall C. Kennedy, San Francisco | Tuesday, November 11 2008 reseller.co.nz I started by examining Windows 7's innards -- the kernel and other low-level structures -- then slowly worked my way out to subsystem behavior and application runtime characteristics. Because one of the focal points of Microsoft's keynote presentation was improved performance, I looked for signs that Windows 7 would be faster, more responsive, and less resource-intensive than the bloated Windows Vista. Vista and Windows 7 were virtually indistinguishable. Lipstick on the pig So where does this leave us? For starters, we can now say with some certainty that Windows 7 is in fact just a repackaging of Windows Vista Bottom line: So far, Windows 7 looks and behaves almost exactly like Windows Vista. It performs almost exactly like Vista. And it breaks all sorts of things that used to work just fine under Vista. In other words, Microsoft's follow-up to its most unpopular OS release since Windows Me threatens to deliver zero measurable performance benefits while introducing new and potentially crippling compatibility issues. IT organizations rejected Windows Vista en masse, and Windows 7 is Microsoft's response. Simply put, it's not enough. Slapping an upgraded UI onto an already discredited OS platform fools nobody and serves only to further alienate the very enterprise customers whom Microsoft claims to be wooing. One thing's for sure: Microsoft's once unassailable dominance of the enterprise desktop is wobbling on a precipice. Windows Vista has permanently eroded the company's reputation among IT decision makers :badpc:	pctek (84)
719411	2008-11-11 03:05:00	I don't think they know that Windows 7 is not even in beta yet........ Longhorn M3 was similar to XP, in speed and in appearance, was it not?????	jwil1 (65)
719412	2008-11-11 03:17:00	I read another review that said that although benchmarks showed that they were almost identical, that programs appeared to open quicker, and the whole thing just felt more snappy. It's supposed to scale far better, and use less resources than Vista aswell. But given that it is in Beta, it means that any negative feedback at this stage can move towards re-evaluating different aspects of it. It's due for release about this time next year, so any conclusion jumping at this stage is entirely redundant.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
719413	2008-11-11 03:39:00	I can tell you this much about it - it has a different networking Layout, called Homegroup - XP can see the shared files - Windows 7 cant see XP shares. It is snapper, loads from completely off to fully running in about 45 seconds compared to 1.15 on the same PC as vista. MANY of the features are still "locked out" But theres a way around that - as they have not been completed yet. The main Visible differences is menu changes from Control panel. Mind you it still is in its early stages. How do I know this ????? I was at a persons place over the weekend, they had the copy thats floating about read This article (www.zdnet.com.au fea_l2) --- and all the "official" screen shots that are about match exactly -- go figure. :) One site even said you can use the Beta and RC1 license codes from Vista to license it ,if you had the versions-- guess what - you can Roll on the public beta - then it can be tested.	wainuitech (129)
719414	2008-11-11 05:19:00	cybernetnews.com	zqwerty (97)
719415	2008-11-11 20:07:00	I can tell you this much about it - it has a different networking Layout, called Homegroup - XP can see the shared files - Windows 7 cant see XP shares. . Wonderful. So how do you fix that? I can't see a lot of difference going by whats been said/shown. Vlite for W7 will obviously be the way to go. Pity after all the feedback they asked for. Unsurprising that they ignored most of it.	pctek (84)
719416	2008-11-11 20:16:00	I have talked to the person who got the torrent file and I may have a copy of it by the weekend to play around with it, BUT a lot of the features in the Pre beta still are not working (as expected) when W7 has been put onto the same work group it finds its self but nothing else yet the XP machine the guy had sees W7 fine. I expect the actual Beta's to be A LOT better. It is quicker though from what I saw.	wainuitech (129)
719417	2008-11-11 20:43:00	I can't see a lot of difference going by whats been said/shown. Most of the development work into the operating system would be the core system underneath the UI. The UI is comparatively significantly easier to do and usually left till last. There are major overhauls also in how hard drives are used (I think they are moving closer to a linux model, with a continuous space, rather than physical/virtual drives as in previous windows) as well as networking as mentioned and speed; they have a team dedicated to improving the performance, since microsoft doesn't have anything for lightweight netbooks. All of those either use XP or linux as Vista is too demanding. W7 is supposed to change that... Also like the others said, I wouldn't take the article seriously at all; its not even in Beta yet and they are already knocking it. I guess if they were given a semi completed car, they would complain too...?	utopian201 (6245)
719418	2008-11-12 04:07:00	Yes I hope Ms$ft realise that they HAVE to deliver something majorly better than Vista or once again major companies will ignore it. I think that they would be best to just concentrate on making the kernal smaller and faster and more reliable, there must be limits to what you can do with eye candy.	Digby (677)
719419	2008-11-17 10:17:00	I downloaded the pre-beta which got leaked recently (but got a hacked version with newer taskbar enabled) Like the new look theme, and the installer needed less hard drive space (recommended 10GB with minimum of 7.6GB, quite smaller than Vista's 16GB or so...) then maybe that's because it's not finished. Some other changes, some good, some bad. Doesn't look incredibly different to Vista at the moment but I had issues with it "running out of memory" and wanting to close down programs... like explorer At least my video card (8600GT) had proper drivers installed straight out of the box Hope we'll see a sensible public beta soon	Agent_24 (57)
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