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| 833141 | 2009-11-24 20:19:00 | Recommended reading from nVidia on a "Balanced PC" for gaming: www.nvidia.com :) mmmmmmm yeaa, I dont see any ATI card there and they are the better buy atm lol, funny that!! |
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| 833142 | 2009-11-24 20:34:00 | As much as I prefer nVidia over ATi, the latter has the best cards and bang for buck at present... | SolMiester (139) | ||
| 833143 | 2009-11-24 20:54:00 | QUOTE=Chilling_Silence;842600]Recommended reading from nVidia on a "Balanced PC" for gaming: . nvidia . com/object/balancedpc . html" target="_blank">www . nvidia . com :)[/QUOTE] mmmmmmm yeaa, I dont see any ATI card there and they are the better buy atm lol, funny that!! I As the Lynnfield platform has better thermals and turbo mode, I would get that over the 1366 . Sure you cant upgrade to the next CPU (6 core), but I really cant see that as a necessity, Well to copy and Past!! Core i7 860: -Slighty faster than the 920 due to "better" turbo mode -Slightly Lower power consumption than the 920 due to better power management -Overall, slightly cheaper than the 920 Core i7 920: -Triple channel memory compared to dual channel memory for the 860 (can run dual channel however) -Probably future proof, due to 6 core Gulftown support on the X58 -Easier to overclock because the PCI-e bus is not on the CPU -PCIE 16x16 over 1156 8x8, 1156 "may" top out in future CF or SLI -More mature platform (X58 boards have gone through multiple revisions) Given the small price difference I just cant recommend 1156, the PCIE issue alone concerns me for future GPU's . I have removed the 1156 socket burn issue, its just to murky and prob is nearly a thing of the past . 1366 is just the smarter choice atm . |
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| 833144 | 2009-11-24 21:34:00 | You do realise, 1156 does have 2 x 16 PCIe on a few motherboards.....so CF and SLI comparisons are voided and 2 GPU can be had with something like 5970 anyway....+ CF\SLI removes access to other PCI slots. 6 core is irrelevant, Tri over Dual channel is negligible and the turbo takes care of OC.... So the x58 is a more mature platform!? edit - I forgot to add, 1156 is the only platform to have USB3 and SATA3 |
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| 833145 | 2009-11-24 21:41:00 | yea I am aware a few higher boards are 16x16, but youll agree most arn't. Well you better hope you never want a six core, cause if you change your mind in a few years you won't have the option :) Why accept all these trade offs for 1156? just get 1366!, if your spending maybe 2.5K spring for the 150 bucks for peace of mind. |
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| 833146 | 2009-11-24 21:47:00 | Because Lynnfield has better dual core speeds (4 over 2 bins turbo), has better thermals and lower power, doesnt need 3 sticks of RAM...ie; Lynnfield is a more mature Bloomfield Silicon... quad cores have been around for about 3 yrs now, dual cores are still the dominate seller. Unless software can run threads parallel, multiple cores are unless, therefore the best processor is a multiple core that can switch to the fastest single core and that is Lynnfield. |
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| 833147 | 2009-11-24 22:07:00 | Y edit - I forgot to add, 1156 is the only platform to have USB3 and SATA3 ahh nope www.gigabyte.com.tw doesnt need 3 sticks of RAM.. Ah nope, common misconception, you can run 2 sticks on 1366 in dual channel just like you are doing right now on the 1156. In fact you can run 1 stick in single channel. Of course if you have a 1366, sure get triple channel its a no brainier. Turbo mode is a sales gimmick, you can do a basic OC well past it on either platform, and 1366 has a Turbo mode for what its worth. The amount of cores being of benefit goes back to 2005 (desktop processing), and yet I saw most arguing against dual cores soon getting one. Same thing happen with Quads and yet like yourself many enthusiasts now have one. I Have 3 games that benefit I7 over my Core2 duo at 1900x1080 both clocked to 3Ghz. Fast forward another two years, as multi-threading has become more efficient don't be so sure 6 core is worthless for a long time, many are now eating there words with quads. |
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| 833148 | 2009-11-24 22:24:00 | ahh nope . gigabyte . com . tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview . aspx?ProductID=3251" target="_blank">www . gigabyte . com . tw Ah nope, common misconception, you can run 2 sticks on 1366 in dual channel just like you are doing right now on the 1156 . In fact you can run 1 stick in single channel . Of course if you have a 1366, sure get triple channel its a no brainier . Turbo mode is a sales gimmick, you can do a basic OC well past it on either platform, and 1366 has a Turbo mode for what its worth . The amount of cores being of benefit goes back to 2005 (desktop processing), and yet I saw most arguing against dual cores soon getting one . Same thing happen with Quads and yet like yourself many enthusiasts now have one . I Have 3 games that benefit I7 over my Core2 duo at 1900x1080 both clocked to 3Ghz . Fast forward another two years, as multi-threading has become more efficient don't be so sure 6 core is worthless for a long time, many are now eating there words with quads . Well, good news on the USB3 & SATA3, I hadnt caught up with that . I didnt know the x58 platform could run Dual Channel, so the arguement comes down to OC and Turbo . . . . . as I still think 6 over 4 cores is irrelevant for the home user . Not everyone is comfortable clocking a $500 CPU BT2?, good airflow and aftermarket coolers are required . . . Unless you buy the extreme version about $2k, Lynnfield is the fastest single core . . |
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| 833149 | 2009-11-24 22:40:00 | If you're overclocking like I am, screw turbo mode and go 920! | qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 833150 | 2009-11-25 01:38:00 | Not everyone is comfortable clocking a $500 CPU BT2?, good airflow and aftermarket coolers are required . . . Unless you buy the extreme version about $2k, Lynnfield is the fastest single core . . I think 1156/860 is a very nice platform its definitely not a bad option . To keep what i am saying in perspective, its pros vs cons and price diff thing, 1366 really does have the edge, its not 1156 is bad! . You can very easily and safely OC either the 860 or 920 to about 3 . 2 -3 . 4 on the stock cooler and a mainstream case without a problem . Going higher the 920 needs aftermarket cooling first, but its a easier high end overclocker . I apologise to the OP for my part in hijacking this thread lol |
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