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833141 2009-11-24 20:19:00 Recommended reading from nVidia on a "Balanced PC" for gaming:
www.nvidia.com


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mmmmmmm yeaa, I dont see any ATI card there and they are the better buy atm lol, funny that!!
Battleneter2 (9361)
833142 2009-11-24 20:34:00 As much as I prefer nVidia over ATi, the latter has the best cards and bang for buck at present... SolMiester (139)
833143 2009-11-24 20:54:00 QUOTE=Chilling_Silence;842600]Recommended reading from nVidia on a "Balanced PC" for gaming:
. nvidia . com/object/balancedpc . html" target="_blank">www . nvidia . com


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mmmmmmm yeaa, I dont see any ATI card there and they are the better buy atm lol, funny that!!



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As the Lynnfield platform has better thermals and turbo mode, I would get that over the 1366 . Sure you cant upgrade to the next CPU (6 core), but I really cant see that as a necessity,



Well to copy and Past!!

Core i7 860:

-Slighty faster than the 920 due to "better" turbo mode
-Slightly Lower power consumption than the 920 due to better power management
-Overall, slightly cheaper than the 920

Core i7 920:

-Triple channel memory compared to dual channel memory for the 860 (can run dual channel however)
-Probably future proof, due to 6 core Gulftown support on the X58
-Easier to overclock because the PCI-e bus is not on the CPU
-PCIE 16x16 over 1156 8x8, 1156 "may" top out in future CF or SLI
-More mature platform (X58 boards have gone through multiple revisions)


Given the small price difference I just cant recommend 1156, the PCIE issue alone concerns me for future GPU's . I have removed the 1156 socket burn issue, its just to murky and prob is nearly a thing of the past . 1366 is just the smarter choice atm .
Battleneter2 (9361)
833144 2009-11-24 21:34:00 You do realise, 1156 does have 2 x 16 PCIe on a few motherboards.....so CF and SLI comparisons are voided and 2 GPU can be had with something like 5970 anyway....+ CF\SLI removes access to other PCI slots. 6 core is irrelevant, Tri over Dual channel is negligible and the turbo takes care of OC....

So the x58 is a more mature platform!?

edit - I forgot to add, 1156 is the only platform to have USB3 and SATA3
SolMiester (139)
833145 2009-11-24 21:41:00 yea I am aware a few higher boards are 16x16, but youll agree most arn't.

Well you better hope you never want a six core, cause if you change your mind in a few years you won't have the option :)

Why accept all these trade offs for 1156? just get 1366!, if your spending maybe 2.5K spring for the 150 bucks for peace of mind.
Battleneter2 (9361)
833146 2009-11-24 21:47:00 Because Lynnfield has better dual core speeds (4 over 2 bins turbo), has better thermals and lower power, doesnt need 3 sticks of RAM...ie; Lynnfield is a more mature Bloomfield Silicon...
quad cores have been around for about 3 yrs now, dual cores are still the dominate seller. Unless software can run threads parallel, multiple cores are unless, therefore the best processor is a multiple core that can switch to the fastest single core and that is Lynnfield.
SolMiester (139)
833147 2009-11-24 22:07:00 Y
edit - I forgot to add, 1156 is the only platform to have USB3 and SATA3

ahh nope

www.gigabyte.com.tw


doesnt need 3 sticks of RAM..

Ah nope, common misconception, you can run 2 sticks on 1366 in dual channel just like you are doing right now on the 1156. In fact you can run 1 stick in single channel. Of course if you have a 1366, sure get triple channel its a no brainier.


Turbo mode is a sales gimmick, you can do a basic OC well past it on either platform, and 1366 has a Turbo mode for what its worth.


The amount of cores being of benefit goes back to 2005 (desktop processing), and yet I saw most arguing against dual cores soon getting one. Same thing happen with Quads and yet like yourself many enthusiasts now have one. I Have 3 games that benefit I7 over my Core2 duo at 1900x1080 both clocked to 3Ghz.

Fast forward another two years, as multi-threading has become more efficient don't be so sure 6 core is worthless for a long time, many are now eating there words with quads.
Battleneter2 (9361)
833148 2009-11-24 22:24:00 ahh nope

. gigabyte . com . tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview . aspx?ProductID=3251" target="_blank">www . gigabyte . com . tw



Ah nope, common misconception, you can run 2 sticks on 1366 in dual channel just like you are doing right now on the 1156 . In fact you can run 1 stick in single channel . Of course if you have a 1366, sure get triple channel its a no brainier .


Turbo mode is a sales gimmick, you can do a basic OC well past it on either platform, and 1366 has a Turbo mode for what its worth .


The amount of cores being of benefit goes back to 2005 (desktop processing), and yet I saw most arguing against dual cores soon getting one . Same thing happen with Quads and yet like yourself many enthusiasts now have one . I Have 3 games that benefit I7 over my Core2 duo at 1900x1080 both clocked to 3Ghz .

Fast forward another two years, as multi-threading has become more efficient don't be so sure 6 core is worthless for a long time, many are now eating there words with quads .

Well, good news on the USB3 & SATA3, I hadnt caught up with that . I didnt know the x58 platform could run Dual Channel, so the arguement comes down to OC and Turbo . . . . . as I still think 6 over 4 cores is irrelevant for the home user .

Not everyone is comfortable clocking a $500 CPU BT2?, good airflow and aftermarket coolers are required . . . Unless you buy the extreme version about $2k, Lynnfield is the fastest single core . .
SolMiester (139)
833149 2009-11-24 22:40:00 If you're overclocking like I am, screw turbo mode and go 920! qazwsxokmijn (102)
833150 2009-11-25 01:38:00 Not everyone is comfortable clocking a $500 CPU BT2?, good airflow and aftermarket coolers are required . . . Unless you buy the extreme version about $2k, Lynnfield is the fastest single core . .

I think 1156/860 is a very nice platform its definitely not a bad option . To keep what i am saying in perspective, its pros vs cons and price diff thing, 1366 really does have the edge, its not 1156 is bad! .

You can very easily and safely OC either the 860 or 920 to about 3 . 2 -3 . 4 on the stock cooler and a mainstream case without a problem . Going higher the 920 needs aftermarket cooling first, but its a easier high end overclocker .


I apologise to the OP for my part in hijacking this thread lol
Battleneter2 (9361)
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