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Thread ID: 94949	2008-11-18 06:21:00	Second Broken Promise By The Tories	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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721217	2008-11-19 18:42:00	Sheesh - you national toadies have the concentration span of a flea. Concentrate - the topic is broken promises by the tories even before they get their bums on the Treasury benches. Most governments at least have the good manners to leave their broken promises until they have been in power for a while, but this greedy, graceless, power hungry mob can't wait. Ergo, this country is going to hell in a hand cart.	John H (8)
721218	2008-11-19 19:04:00	Sheesh - us labourites are making ourselves look stupider and and stupider, hell, Even Roddy_Boy gets it and made us look silly. Fixed it for you.	Metla (12)
721219	2008-11-19 19:53:00	Fixed it for you. Pathetic, tired and humourless as ever.	John H (8)
721220	2008-11-19 20:28:00	Pathetic, tired and humourless as ever. I totally agree, also known as the bare faced truth.	Metla (12)
721221	2008-11-19 20:33:00	Yawn. Meanwhile, in the real world...	John H (8)
721222	2008-11-19 20:39:00	And the Nat voters reveal their total lack of intellectual ability by once again resorting to pathetic and unoriginal ad hominem attacks rather than dealing with the issues. The country is going to hell in a hand cart. Thats a pretty broad statement there chap......nothing like wrapping everyone up in the same blanket?	SolMiester (139)
721223	2008-11-19 20:48:00	Yawn. Meanwhile, in the real world... ...in the real world whats done is done. Key is in, broken promises? Labour gave us 9 years of it, 9 years to do something with our country, instead they drove it broke and tried to police everyone on how to breathe the air. So in the real world, Roddy hit it on the head. Fancy that!	rob_on_guitar (4196)
721224	2008-11-19 21:13:00	Thats a pretty broad statement there chap......nothing like wrapping everyone up in the same blanket? Oh, sorry if that offended you Sol. If you go back through the posts on this thread (and other similar ones) you will be able to work out which posters address the issue, and which ones attack the poster instead of the issue - I meant the latter of course.	John H (8)
721225	2008-11-19 21:24:00	...in the real world whats done is done. Key is in, broken promises? Labour gave us 9 years of it, 9 years to do something with our country, instead they drove it broke and tried to police everyone on how to breathe the air. So in the real world, Roddy hit it on the head. Fancy that! I still don't understand where you got the idea that Labour drove the country broke? Until the recent global meltdown, the Labour government had retired huge amounts of debt they had inherited from previous administrations (particularly Muldoon's era, which left the country technically insolvent), thus saving us vast amounts of interest payments. It had got the country to begin saving (Kiwisaver) and set up the superannuation fund to pay superannuitants out of income rather than the "pay as you go" scheme we had always had. And in terms of budget surpluses, the country was doing very well. The problem is that the end of the Labour govt has coincided with international issues such as the US subprime meltdown over which no govt has had any control. Other countries such as Britain are in much deeper doodoo than we are - some international commentators are saying the NZ economy is far better placed to withstand the international recession than others. The fact that Key's policies on most things are based on "me too" borrowing of Labour policies suggests that Labour wasn't doing anything wrong economically. Many people seem to be acknowledging since the election that the government lost the election because of perceptions of Nanny State control (your final point - be it accurate or no, that was the perception, but Labour just didn't seem to get it), and just plain boredom with Labour. But no-one worth listening to is saying Labour drove the country broke. It has been the longest period of sustained growth in the country's history and the envy of many other countries.	John H (8)
721226	2008-11-19 22:38:00	And it would their failure to do anything with the buoyant economy except tax us to hell and drive everyone to Aussie that many people became unhappy about. We could all see the world-wide recession coming. Without even getting in massive growth in bureaucracy, Laws to control our lives, laws to suppress opposition and strengthen their political position, etc etc etc. Enough is enough, They had to go and they most certainly failed miserably in the last three years. the NZ people have spoken, and we will do so again in three years time, Lets hope like hell these threads don't become a daily occurencethey are already as redicules as they are tedious.	Metla (12)
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