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Thread ID: 94934 2008-11-18 01:31:00 What to teach the new guy? robsonde (120) PC World Chat
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721042 2008-11-18 01:31:00 so I have taken on the task of running a few workshops / teaching sessions.


we have three new unix people, they have the basics sorted, CD, PWD, LS and such.
we are looking at people who have been doing helpdesk untill two months ago.

I have given them a few session:
file systems, what lives where and why
kernal , what is it and why we care.
process control, what's running and how to stop it.
some basic hardware.



the questions is what other topics should i cover ?.....
what skills do you expect from a new sysadmin ??
what do you find a new sysadmin always fail at?
robsonde (120)
721043 2008-11-18 01:45:00 Sysadmins that have only done Windows admin before struggle with everything in a CLI in my experience.

Sounds like you've done a great intoductory program there - I'd just expand on that with things like using VI (can be very tricky to start with), df -k, find, man, piping commands, using grep, cpio.

Other thing I'd say (again particularly if they have a MS background), is that there's no safety net with UNIX - if you chmod something, recursively delete directories, or grab the wrong PID when killing processes, you can come unstuck pretty quick.
nofam (9009)
721044 2008-11-18 01:48:00 Sysadmins that have only done Windows admin before struggle with everything in a CLI in my experience.

Sounds like you've done a great intoductory program there - I'd just expand on that with things like using VI (can be very tricky to start with), df -k, find, man, piping commands, using grep, cpio.

Other thing I'd say (again particularly if they have a MS background), is that there's no safety net with UNIX - if you chmod something, recursively delete directories, or grab the wrong PID when killing processes, you can come unstuck pretty quick.

I think we have covered most of that.....

maybe good to do a session on VI
robsonde (120)
721045 2008-11-18 02:47:00 I have given them a few session:
file systems, what lives where and why
kernal , what is it and why we care .
process control, what's running and how to stop it .
some basic hardware .



Setting up user accounts, installing new hardware, installing and configuring apps and utilities .
Networking, modems and settting all that up and some basic where to go and what to look at for troubleshooting .
pctek (84)
721046 2008-11-18 03:43:00 Setting up user accounts, installing new hardware, installing and configuring apps and utilities.
Networking, modems and settting all that up and some basic where to go and what to look at for troubleshooting.

I agree. Installing software from source can be quite tricky for people straight from windows. Well it can be if you choose to install it to a non default location...

Also networking can be difficult too.
utopian201 (6245)
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