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Thread ID: 95181 2008-11-27 01:18:00 Intersections: The Right Rule Bantu (52) PC World Chat
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723365 2008-11-27 03:40:00 As long as everyone follows it, I don't see the problem.

I find it quite useful, the person turning left holds the traffic for the right hand turner, letting them merge faster. If people actually followed it, there would be less congestion.



You don't hold up much traffic, as soon as you slow down slightly the cars behind will be pulling out and passing you and if the car behind you doesn't, one of the ones further back will have a go.

One of the studies into this rule found that accidents increased because the right turning drivers tended to concentrate on the left turning car and get hit by the cars or motorcycles coming straight though.
PaulD (232)
723366 2008-11-27 03:57:00 As long as everyone follows it, I don't see the problem.

I find it quite useful, the person turning left holds the traffic for the right hand turner, letting them merge faster. If people actually followed it, there would be less congestion.

It's just that people are too stupid to get it. It's simple. If they're on your right, and you're turning left you give way. If not, then you don't.

Any learner driver will tell you that.

I agree - changing this rule because people don't follow it (usually because they can't do more than one thing at a time - like "think" and "drive"), is the same kind of reasoning (ie. none) that traffic planners use when replacing roundabouts with traffic lights.

If people used roundabouts correctly and well (as they do in the UK), everyone would get to their destinations quicker and using less fuel. Unfortunately, many drivers seem to want to give way to any traffic on the roundabout, even if it's to their left, so this ends up slowing everyone down.

/rant
/hijack
johcar (6283)
723367 2008-11-27 05:11:00 The one rule that no-one seems to know about is when you are turning right at an uncontrolled 't' intersection and someone is turning right in front of you (you are at the 'tail' of the 't'), that you have right of way.

Like this. (www.imagef1.net.nz)

I've had a policeman fail to give way at such an intersection (just about hit him) he beeped his horn and drove away.

People seem to expect that there will always be a give way at a 't', and where there isn't they don't know what to do, or just treat it like there is a give way there.
pine-o-cleen (2955)
723368 2008-11-27 05:19:00 The person on the "tail" of the 'T' HAS to give way :)

You are, after all, entering the primary road.
Zippity (58)
723369 2008-11-27 05:50:00 Umm NO! (www.landtransport.govt.nz)




When turning right at an uncontrolled intersection, you must give way to:

-all right-turning vehicles coming from your right.
pine-o-cleen (2955)
723370 2008-11-27 05:52:00 The one rule that no-one seems to know about is when you are turning right at an uncontrolled 't' intersection and someone is turning right in front of you (you are at the 'tail' of the 't'), that you have right of way .

Like this . ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/roadrules . JPG" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz)

I've had a policeman fail to give way at such an intersection (just about hit him) he beeped his horn and drove away .

People seem to expect that there will always be a give way at a 't', and where there isn't they don't know what to do, or just treat it like there is a give way there .

Yes, that is exactly what happens near where I live, an UNcontrolled T intersection .
When I am turning right and the other one is turning right, (them being on my right), I know I have to give way, but half the time they don't know what to do so then it is a face off, lol!

As en ex driving instructor, I am appalled at some of the ignorant drivers out there and am surprised that there aren't more tragic accidents!

LL :eek:
lakewoodlady (103)
723371 2008-11-27 05:55:00 Just hope I don't meet Zippity at one of these intersections! pine-o-cleen (2955)
723372 2008-11-27 06:04:00 When people dream up their own road rules, it is a bit far fetched to call the resulting fender-bender an accident. R2x1 (4628)
723373 2008-11-27 07:33:00 I've been looking for a definition of Zippity's "primary road." I don't think it exists. It's some comfort that Zippity is in Wellington so we're unlikely to meet at a T corner around Auckland.
Just thought of it - maybe "primary road" means "the road I'm on?"
coldot (6847)
723374 2008-11-27 08:19:00 I've been looking for a definition of Zippity's "primary road." I don't think it exists. It's some comfort that Zippity is in Wellington so we're unlikely to meet at a T corner around Auckland.
Just thought of it - maybe "primary road" means "the road I'm on?"

Apparently there was a change considered but never adopted in 2004 that traffic on a road that terminated gives way to traffic on a through road. AFAIK NZ doesn't have primary and secondary roads.

There's more detail than you'll probably want on this issue in a thesis ir.canterbury.ac.nz
PaulD (232)
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