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Thread ID: 95061	2008-11-23 03:00:00	New car's what's what.	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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722172	2008-11-25 01:05:00	If you can afford to buy a good European car, BMW, Merc, Audi, etc then why would you keep it for five years? If you had the money you would replace it after three or four years, surely? Would you really want you friends to see that you could only afford an old car? :horrified Surely not.:yuck: I would rather spent the same amount of money or pay more to buy a 2003 model of BMW, Merc, Audi than a 2008 brand new Japanese cars. For me, a car is more than a machine that gets me from point A to point B, I don't mind if it costs more to repair or it is not as reliable as a Toyota Corolla, as long as I feel good every time I step into it. :)	SKT174 (1319)
722173	2008-11-25 03:46:00	...and keep feeling good as you watch it being towed to the garage for the 4th time. Europeans are always going on about how reliable Subarus are. We all know Subies are the least reliable of the big Jap car manufacturers, so that goes to show you how unreliable euro cars really are. They also aren't designed for the treatment they get in NZ. I'd say Volvo are pretty good, being Swedish, but pretty much everything else won't last nearly as well as a Jap car, and parts and panels are way more expensive, and hard to get hold of for older models. Don't get me wrong, I love european cars. I just dont think owning one (unless it's brand new) is a good idea in NZ. I'd say get an Altezza or Lexus, you get the best of both worlds then. The high spec Lexus RS200 is a very nice car, and can be picked up 5 or 6 years old for $12 - $14k.	wratterus (105)
722174	2008-11-25 21:49:00	Many Japanese cars are no longer made in Japan - Honda ex Thailand for instance apart from the Accord Euro. If you want an Audi A4, buy a VW Passat virtually the same car - same mechanicals S1000s cheaper.	KenESmith (6287)
722175	2008-11-25 21:59:00	Touch wood ~ I've owned my euro over 5 years and not once it has been towed to the garage. Buying any sort of cars whether new or 2nd hand depends on luck, and how well the previous owner looks after the car if it's a 2nd hand. Most people when they shop for a car, they probably doesn't care what color it is, what it looks like, what features it has, what power is has, front wheel drive / rear wheel drive, as long as it is economical, reliable, low maintenance, and hope that they don't need to spent an extra dime after they purchased the car. However, some will not fall into that group. If I'm not wrong Toyota Corolla is the best selling and most reliable car on the planet, but do I enjoy driving one? My answer is no.	SKT174 (1319)
722176	2008-11-25 23:13:00	I would rather spent the same amount of money or pay more to buy a 2003 model of BMW, Merc, Audi than a 2008 brand new Japanese cars. For me, a car is more than a machine that gets me from point A to point B, I don't mind if it costs more to repair or it is not as reliable as a Toyota Corolla , as long as I feel good every time I step into it. :) Well, why not try a real transport money saver? Stand in fresh cow pats in bare feet on a frosty morning. I haven't tried it in years but the "feel good when you step into it" feeling is still a vivid memory. :p	R2x1 (4628)
722177	2008-11-26 03:10:00	Haha too much for the brain R2x1.	zqwerty (97)
722178	2008-11-26 04:31:00	Well, why not try a real transport money saver? Stand in fresh cow pats in bare feet on a frosty morning. I haven't tried it in years but the "feel good when you step into it" feeling is still a vivid memory. :p A stink memory	prefect (6291)
722179	2008-11-26 04:43:00	I would rather spent the same amount of money or pay more to buy a 2003 model of BMW, Merc, Audi than a 2008 brand new Japanese cars. For me, a car is more than a machine that gets me from point A to point B, I don't mind if it costs more to repair or it is not as reliable as a Toyota Corolla, as long as I feel good every time I step into it. :) I have a friend with a 2004 BMW and it is an absolute Rust Bucket. It has been patched about 3 times in the past 2 years and it is still showing a lot of rust holes. So much for So called quality. My old '96 Accord has none whatsoever. Everyone has their own opinion on what is best, I guess that is why there are so many makes/models available, but after all it is just a mode of transport and how much luxury do you need? Maybe safety would be a more important factor. Volvo are aiming to have all their cars to such a safety standard by 2020 that nobody will be killed or injured in their cars. That would be great if it can happen. My family business had a few Volvo trucks in their fleet. When they did break down the parts were slow to get to NZ and very expensive. A friend with a fleet of Japanese trucks hardly had any down time in comparison. The Volvos were only marginally more comfy to drive.	Bantu (52)
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