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836240 2009-12-03 23:27:00 Gday.

I've moved into an old house that has never had broadband. I'm looking to set up a Worldnet account, either the unlimited or the 35GB one both are $60.

Problem is there are more than 5 phone jacks, how big a problem is this? Must I pay the $250 to send someone out? The house does have an alarm although it is not in use, and does not have Sky. Can I simply test the service and if it doesn't work pay the fee for someone to come?

I called the Worldnet helpline (straight thru too, bloody good) and he was concerned about performance, hey aren't we all.

Anyone used an ISP on 5 or more jacks? And what are Worldnet like as a whole?
Buff_K (691)
836241 2009-12-03 23:29:00 Plug the modem / router into one and find out (once you join it). Obviously, you're not going to use 5 of them for one computer Speedy Gonzales (78)
836242 2009-12-03 23:35:00 no of course, I'll be using wireless anyway.

So thats all it is? Some of them will work and some wont?
Buff_K (691)
836243 2009-12-03 23:40:00 Well, you only need one, since you wont get 5 computers on broadband. Unless youre planning on paying the phone bill 5 times. And you're planning on buying 5 modem/routers. Wireless as in within the house, not Woosh? In that case, yup, you only need 1 line Speedy Gonzales (78)
836244 2009-12-03 23:56:00 The other 4 maybe extensions of the main phonejack. Not 4 separate lines Speedy Gonzales (78)
836245 2009-12-04 00:04:00 Problem is there are more than 5 phone jacks, how big a problem is this? Must I pay the $250 to send someone out? The house does have an alarm although it is not in use, and does not have Sky. Can I simply test the service and if it doesn't work pay the fee for someone to come?


It's not the number of jacks that counts but the number that are in use. Lots of jacks can indicate excess wiring and layouts that could pick up noise but you should try it.

If the alarm isn't in use it may or may not affect the ADSL depending on whether it has circuitry to detect whether the line is present or just a simple change over contact to grab the line as required. Again try it.
PaulD (232)
836246 2009-12-04 00:04:00 The number of jack points is irrevelant, it is the number of phones plugged in together with their filters that imposes a limit. Too many phones and filters will degrade the ADSL signal, this is when a main filter or splitter for phones and a dedicated jack point wired with cat5/6 for the modem is recommended

Edit: snap. more or less :)
Terry Porritt (14)
836247 2009-12-04 00:26:00 Thanks everyone. Buff_K (691)
836248 2009-12-04 00:44:00 The number of jacks does matter, even if there is nothing plugged in to them.
We had this problem at our place, there are 5 jacks around the house, and when we got broadband I tried it first with in-line filters on the two phones but could not get an ADSL signal.
Even tried with no phones plugged in but still couldn't get it working.
In the end I had to install a master splitter on the incoming line and that fixed it.
CYaBro (73)
836249 2009-12-04 03:56:00 The number of jacks does matter, even if there is nothing plugged in to them .
We had this problem at our place, there are 5 jacks around the house, and when we got broadband I tried it first with in-line filters on the two phones but could not get an ADSL signal .
Even tried with no phones plugged in but still couldn't get it working .
In the end I had to install a master splitter on the incoming line and that fixed it .

Yes, well it can if the wiring and the jack points are a bit below par, and the distance from the dslam is also a bit far . Each jack point introduces a wiring impedance change, signal reflections, and signal attenuation .

Jack points are usually daisy chained, so if the modem is on the end one, the HF adsl signal may be down a bit, even though the voice signal is ok .


I put 4 jack points in our house, daisy chained, 2 wire system, and my modem was on the 3rd jack point .

After using a 'microfilter' as an incoming splitter, and cat5 cable to a dedicated point, all in anticipation of adsl2, I found no change in signal to noise or line attenuation .

It is usually said not to exceed 5 jacks and phones . Then again filters can vary, some are very simple, and have a roll off of only a few dB per octave, so when say, 5 are connected in parallel, they will attenuate the adsl signal more than higher quality filters would .

Also beware jack points on outside walls with no insulation and vapour barrier, they can quickly corrode through damp .
Terry Porritt (14)
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