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Thread ID: 95248	2008-11-29 17:40:00	Airbus crash	Paul Camford (10007)	PC World Chat

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724198	2008-11-29 17:40:00	From the NZ Herald or whatever their Sunday rag is called They include this comment [ Air New Zealand urged the public and aviation industry to avoid speculating on possible causes until proper evidence emerged.] Then NZ Herald speculates Speculation # 1 [When the aircraft was over Canet, the pilot tried to restart it and it picked up," retired aviation mechanic Claude Pedro told Perpignan's L'Independant newspaper. "It ascended and then cut out. That was it, then nothing. It fell. I can tell you it was only flying on one engine, I'm sure of that, I would have heard the sound of the second. And with only one engine there was nothing to be done.] Correct me if I am wrong but I thought a modern 2 engined aircraft is designed to reach the nearest airfield on one engine Speculation #2 [One experienced New Zealand pilot, speaking on condition of anonymity, had three theories: the plane either hit something, such as a bird; lost a vital piece of equipment such as an aileron or wing panel; or a mechanical defect brought the plane down] He has certainly covered himself, almost bound to be right !	Paul Camford (10007)
724199	2008-11-29 18:03:00	Yes a modern twin engine jet aircraft well fly on one engine, but not very well. ( Hope I used the right wells Roddy_Boy.) Even a 747 can fly on one engine. As for telling by sound whether it is flying on one or two engines I douht whether you could tell by the sound. :)	Trev (427)
724200	2008-11-29 19:31:00	I am guessing it was a control problem, fly by wire controls and computer inputs etc probaly got an EADS equalvalent of a BSOD. Airplanes dont go into a JU87 type dive into the sea for no reason	prefect (6291)
724201	2008-11-29 20:21:00	Yes I thought they could fly on one engine. Was it taking off or coming in to land or just flying along by the sea ? There are a lot (over 2,000) A320's in service and about 10 of them have crashed over the last 10 years.	Digby (677)
724202	2008-11-29 20:30:00	Yes I thought they could fly on one engine. Was it taking off or coming in to land or just flying along by the sea ? There are a lot (over 2,000) A320's in service and about 10 of them have crashed over the last 10 years. Of course they can fly on one engine. That is why they are certified to fly across oceans so they can safely reach an airport if one engine fails. Digby - the media is full of reports of this accident with details of what the aircraft was doing, have you not read any of the news.	Safari (3993)
724203	2008-11-29 20:43:00	At a guess I would suspect a computer problem, probibly caused by the pilot putting it into such a position that the computer had to take over abeit a bit to late. I could be wrong here but, alot of pilots prefer the Boeing fly by wire system than Airbuses because Boeings have a mechanical backup system for flight controls were as Airbuses back up system is about 3 other computer systems. :)	Trev (427)
724204	2008-11-29 20:53:00	I need a touch of clairvoyance too,will just have to wait for the facts.	Cicero (40)
724205	2008-11-29 21:18:00	At a guess I would suspect a computer problem, probibly caused by the pilot putting it into such a position that the computer had to take over abeit a bit to late. Hmm, I thought the Airbuses had a system that if the pilot put it into a "Wrong" position (ie nose dive) the computer took over ... instantly? HAD the pilot put it into a nose dive (unlikely, Id hope) then the computer SHOULD have corrected it before it was too late. So my guess is there was a fault/failure in the computer IF that was the case. And that first speculation sounds like a load of bs to me. Tell me, how does someone (on the ground) hear a plane over the middle of the ocean (well, 20km from land) hear ONE engine UP IN THE SKY cut out? Yes, planes can fly on one engine, so unless something else went wrong, that's probably not what put it into a dive if that was the case. All speculation tho, hurry up and find the black boxes!	--Wolf-- (128)
724206	2008-11-29 21:21:00	Maybe theres some "higher Power" coming into play - From the NZHerald: By a grim and appalling coincidence, the Air New Zealand Airbus 320 crash on Friday occurred 29 years to the day after the Erebus catastrophe, the country's worst peacetime disaster. --- Spooky	wainuitech (129)
724207	2008-11-29 21:35:00	Maybe theres some "higher Power" coming into play And maybe, just maybe, it was the Tooth Fairy. Or, as our USA friends are likely to have us believe - it was a conspiracy :punk	Zippity (58)
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