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Thread ID: 95381	2008-12-03 23:48:00	For Three Years, Every Bite Organic	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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725683	2008-12-03 23:48:00	Let's see . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "ORGANIC" means having at least a single free-state carbon molecule somewhere in it . If that's true, then vomit, feces, dead snails, and pretty much anything that can reproduce is also organic . Diamonds don't really have any free-state carbon molecules, they are all tied up in blinging and have no real caloric or protein values either . . I guess that the higher you go UP the food-chain, you gotta expect sto-o-o-pid ideas and things like this . But the one thing I know for a fact, is that I am not a ruminant and therefor cannot digest twigs and bark either . Give me a formerly living and now dead animal on my plate, preferably rare and juicy! Sto-o-o-pid link HERE ( . nytimes . com/2008/12/02/health/02well . html?_r=1&em" target="_blank">www . nytimes . com) Questions remain about whether organic foods are really better for you . The data are mixed . This fall, researchers from the University of Copenhagen reported on a two-year experiment in which they grew carrots, kale, peas, potatoes and apples using both organic and conventional growing methods . The researchers found that the growing methods made no difference in the nutrients in the crops or the levels of nutrients retained by rats that ate them, according to the study, published in The Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture . Hmmmmm?!? Maybe we should eliminate the middleman and farmers . markets, etc and just go straight to eating the lab rats .	SurferJoe46 (51)
725684	2008-12-03 23:57:00	Mmmmmm.... Lab rats.....	johcar (6283)
725685	2008-12-04 00:18:00	"ORGANIC" means having at least a single free-state carbon molecule somewhere in it . This is true, but it also means this pertaining to, involving, or grown with fertilizers or pesticides of animal or vegetable origin, as distinguished from manufactured chemicals: organic farming; organic fruits . Thus, your stupid argument is irrelevant .	roddy_boy (4115)
725686	2008-12-04 00:22:00	I grow weary of that..	SurferJoe46 (51)
725687	2008-12-04 00:24:00	Hmmmm Went and checked out your profile: roddy_boy has not made any friends yet 10. 9. 8. 7. 6. 5. 4. 3. 2. 1. <click>	SurferJoe46 (51)
725688	2008-12-04 04:26:00	The word "organic" is used in the same way as "free range" in NZ . Perhaps in the US as well? While some people may be genuine in their belief that both are better for you, it is really just a method of charging more for the same product . Why should free range eggs be a better product than battery eggs? Surely an egg is an egg is an egg? So why are you permitted to sell them for at least twice the price?:illogical There was a story a year or so ago about a firm who labelled their eggs "free range" and delighted in extortionate prices until they were found out . Idiots - ahem, I mean consumers - could not tell the difference . That's most probably because an egg is an egg is an egg . No matter how it is produced, it comes out an egg . That is also the same with so called organic produce . However you grow vegetables, they still require the same conditions and nutrients to mature and, interestingly enough, at maturity all vegetables are the same however grown . Organic vegetables (and free range eggs) do not taste any different nor are they better for you despite what proponents of organics and free range will try to tell you . Certainly, mistakes have been made in the past and some pesticides, etc, have been a disaster, but that is the way that mankind learns . The organic growers proudly proclaim their produce "preservative-free" and we serve our vegetables barely heated . It is perhaps not surprising that food poisoning is on the rise . In Australia and NZ alone, over 600 people die from food poisoning related illnesses each year . (Source: "Growing Today" June 1999 . ) "Natural" methods of breeding can present as many problems as non-organic . The odds of transferring a naturally occurring toxin as well as the desired characteristic can be fairly high . That has happened with the organic plant breeding of a variety of celery which had to be abandoned when levels of the naturally occurring toxic psoralens became too high . (Source: "Growing Today" June 1999 . ) I have no worries about people who wish to eat organically grown food, but I prefer to pay less . Can't understand what the organic proponents are on about . :illogical Hmmmm Went and checked out your profile: I'm surprised at you, Joe! It's not nice to mock the afflicted . :rolleyes:	Roscoe (6288)
725689	2008-12-04 06:03:00	Well I grew up with home grown vegies and when I went flatting for few years I definitely could taste the difference in shop bought stuff it had no taste. Now I'm married I grow my own you really can't beat the taste and flavour	gary67 (56)
725690	2008-12-04 06:20:00	I agree with the taste of home grown-verses store bought . But the real problem in store produce is the crop picking - it's 'way too early and the fruit/veggies are allowed or desired, actually to ripen on the way to market . Bad idea . No wonder apples taste like hard potatoes . I prefer to buy frozen veggies over canned or sometimes even fresh style . The reason? They pick it at ripe time and then freeze it, and since it cannot ripen when frozen in a package - the product is a lot better . I grow the occasional squash, eggplant and lots of tomatoes and lettuce, but I need to buy from produce stores too much . I cannot devote much more yard to a truck crop . NZ looks better all the time . Acreage? Huh?	SurferJoe46 (51)
725691	2008-12-04 08:08:00	Hmmmm Went and checked out your profile: 10 . 9 . 8 . 7 . 6 . 5 . 4 . 3 . 2 . 1 . <click> Lol . You have one friend . Stu . Well done mate .	roddy_boy (4115)
725692	2008-12-04 08:11:00	I'm surprised at you, Joe! It's not nice to mock the afflicted . :rolleyes: Hmmmm Went and checked out your profile: Roscoe has not made any friends yet 10 . 9 . 8 . 7 . 6 . 5 . 4 . 3 . 2 . 1 . <click>	roddy_boy (4115)
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