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Thread ID: 105651	2009-12-09 21:47:00	How can I have fewer unneeded programs running in background?	BasketballOSU (14267)	Press F1

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838238	2009-12-09 21:47:00	When I open the task manager and look at all my running processes, there are always about 25-30 "programs" running in the background, even when I have nothing in open windows. I can't even begin to tell which programs are needed to keep Windows running and which aren't. I want to free up as much memory as possible to make games run better. Also, it would be nice if I could keep the unneeded programs from running in the first place on startup rather than just ending them each time I want to free up the RAM. I'm not even sure where to begin on this, any suggestion or thoughts?	BasketballOSU (14267)
838239	2009-12-09 21:58:00	Oh oh I want to know too... I have played with msconfig? kind of thing and regedit etc many times but never once produced result better than a RAM upgrade!:(	soulhound (15475)
838240	2009-12-09 22:03:00	It's worth nothing that the processes you see in Task Manager aren't all 'programs' as such; if there's nothing running in the Applications tab, most of the processes you see will be system processes and services, which usually need to be there. Having said that, some programs such as Norton Antivirus, are notorious for having a heavy footprint, which is why we recommend alternatives. Probably the best thing is to post a hijackthis log here, which lists all your startup entries. We can have a look and advise what you can remove safely. :thumbs:	nofam (9009)
838241	2009-12-09 22:05:00	What OS have you got? XP/Vista? msconfig is one way to keep programs from starting up at logon. Putting in more RAM is always a good option but depends on how many slots you have and what is the max RAM your motherboard supports. In Vista there's a service called Superfetch (en.wikipedia.org).. you could disable that but it is recommended to have it running as it does speed up the PC with commonly used programs. Hope this helps.	ronyville (10611)
838242	2009-12-09 22:14:00	You could try turning off some of the services from running when the computer has booted up: Start > Run > "services.msc" Turn off with caution.	Renmoo (66)
838243	2009-12-09 22:34:00	You could try turning off some of the services from running when the computer has booted up: Start > Run > "services.msc" Turn off with caution. Helps if you know which ones: Google Black Viper - they provide a list for the various versions of Windows, what they are, a cautious approach and a lets disable tons of them approach. Read that and with a bit of common sense you can do just fine. Common sense - for instance if you use Wireless obviously you want it left on, if not, disable it and so on. Msconfig is for disabling startup programs and if you have done all that and have plenty of RAM and it still runs like a sick snail, then it's time for a format and fresh install.	pctek (84)
838244	2009-12-10 00:15:00	Good idea on the Hijack this. I am running Windows XP. Here is my logfile: Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2 Scan saved at 6:13:02 PM, on 12/9/2009 Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180) Boot mode: Normal Running processes: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ZcfgSvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\wltrysvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcmwltry.exe C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Intel\Wireless\Bin\1XConfig.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\FrameworkService.exe C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\Mcshield.exe C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\VsTskMgr.exe C:\Program Files\Dell\NICCONFIGSVC\NICCONFIGSVC.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\sp_rsser.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehmsas.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLTRAY.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\SB Performance Utility\CTPowUti.exe C:\WINDOWS\CTHELPER.EXE C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\SHSTAT.EXE C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\UdaterUI.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\RunDLL32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\McTray.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Webshots\Webshots.scr C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = go.microsoft.com R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = go.microsoft.com R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = go.microsoft.com R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ehTray] C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell Wireless Manager UI] C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLTRAY O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IntelWireless] C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe /tf Intel PROSet/Wireless O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /installquiet O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVHotkey] rundll32.exe nvHotkey.dll,Start O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTDVDDET] "C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTSysVol] C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe /r O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTPerformanceUtility] C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\SB Performance Utility\CTPowUti.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ShStatEXE] "C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\SHSTAT.EXE" /STANDALONE O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfeeUpdaterUI] "C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\UdaterUI.exe" /StartedFromRunKey O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DLA] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW.EXE O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RunDLL32.exe NvMCTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SetDefaultMIDI] MIDIDef.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SUPERAntiSpyware] C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [EA Core] "C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\EADM\Core.exe" -silent O4 - Startup: Webshots.lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\Launcher.exe O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000 O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - www.update.microsoft.com O20 - Winlogon Notify: !SASWinLogon - C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SASWINLO.dll O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE O23 - Service: EvtEng - Intel Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe O23 - Service: McAfee Framework Service (McAfeeFramework) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\Common Framework\FrameworkService.exe O23 - Service: McAfee McShield (McShield) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\Mcshield.exe O23 - Service: McAfee Task Manager (McTaskManager) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\VirusScan Enterprise\VsTskMgr.exe O23 - Service: NICCONFIGSVC - Dell Inc. - C:\Program Files\Dell\NICCONFIGSVC\NICCONFIGSVC.exe O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe O23 - Service: RegSrvc - Intel Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe O23 - Service: Spectrum24 Event Monitor (S24EventMonitor) - Intel Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe O23 - Service: Spyware Terminator Realtime Shield Service (sp_rssrv) - Crawler.com - C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\sp_rsser.exe O23 - Service: WLANKEEPER - Intel® Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe O23 - Service: Dell Wireless WLAN Tray Service (wltrysvc) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wltrysvc.exe -- End of file - 7370 bytes	BasketballOSU (14267)
838245	2009-12-10 00:22:00	You havent got that many in startup These dont have to be in startup O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTDVDDET] "C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTSysVol] C:\Program Files\Creative\Sound Blaster Audigy 2\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe /r O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SUPERAntiSpyware] C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background O4 - Startup: Webshots.lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\Launcher.exe	Speedy Gonzales (78)
838246	2009-12-10 00:31:00	I'd suggest you get rid of McAfee too; it's very resource hungry much like Norton Antivirus, and not that good to be honest. Suggest you get NOD32 as a replacement. To uninstall McAfee, download and run their removal tool from here (download.mcafee.com)	nofam (9009)
838247	2009-12-10 00:33:00	C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper . exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched . exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW . EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt . exe C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware . exe C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs . exe C:\PROGRA~1\Webshots\Webshots . scr C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService . exe C:\Program Files\Steam\steam . exe O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [ehTray] C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray . exe O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper . exe" O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched . exe" -osboot O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER . EXE O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [DLA] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DLA\DLACTRLW . EXE O4 - HKCU\ . . \Run: [SetDefaultMIDI] MIDIDef . exe O4 - HKCU\ . . \Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs . exe" /background O4 - HKCU\ . . \Run: [EA Core] "C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\EADM\Core . exe" -silent O4 - Startup: Webshots . lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\Launcher . exe O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL . EXE/3000 O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR . DLL O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice . exe O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc . - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService . exe O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Computer, Inc . - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder . exe O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA . EXE O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc . - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService . exe O23 - Service: NICCONFIGSVC - Dell Inc . - C:\Program Files\Dell\NICCONFIGSVC\NICCONFIGSVC . exe O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12 . exe Oh yes he has . You don't NEED this stuff in startup . And I'd dump McAfees and get a decent antivirus - NOD32 for a pay one or MS Security Essentials for free . And get rid of AdAware - it's out of date and no good anymore anyway .	pctek (84)
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