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Thread ID: 95547	2008-12-10 01:45:00	Security Alarm?	Ninjabear (2948)	PC World Chat

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727301	2008-12-11 09:25:00	We have a good neigbourhoood watch in our street. If an alarm goes off and neigbours hear it they always investigate. I take a crowbar or baseball bat when I investigate neigbours alarms and run as quickly as possible to get there before any possible crook absconds. 10 years of running and they all have been false alarms usually another 2 or so neigbs turn up as well. 1 has a golf club, 1 machete other a wheel brace. Monitored alarm just tells you earlier that you have been burgled thats all. As long as you or your neigbours are home all the time and that Mr burglar does not have a bigger weapon than you do.	wmoore (6009)
727302	2008-12-11 13:22:00	I've called up a security alarm company today and someone will be here to talk about it tommorow. My friend wishes to install the alarm first with no monitoring as she doesn't have the money at the moment to pay for that kind of service. Hmm..A question I ask myself is . Would having an alarm with no monitoring be better than having no alarm at all?	Ninjabear (2948)
727303	2008-12-11 18:31:00	A big dog would probably be cheaper and more effective!	johcar (6283)
727304	2008-12-11 18:33:00	I've called up a security alarm company today and someone will be here to talk about it tommorow. My friend wishes to install the alarm first with no monitoring as she doesn't have the money at the moment to pay for that kind of service. Hmm..A question I ask myself is . Would having an alarm with no monitoring be better than having no alarm at all? An alarm with no monitoring is not an alarm. :illogical If your friend cannot afford the expense of a firm monitoring the alarm, why does she not monitor it herself? When you have a firm monitor your alarm and the alarm detects an intruder, it dials the firm to alert them to alert you. Why not cut out the middle man and have the alarm dial your mobile? Much cheaper!	Roscoe (6288)
727305	2008-12-11 19:44:00	A damned expensive deterrent! Does not stop anybody stealing the car, but it might make a potential thief think again. My "car alarm" only cost me $5 and an hour to install. There are two stickers on each side window declaring that "this vehicle is alarmed." An LED flashes brightly on the dash. It does not have a noise maker and appears to be as effective as a deterrent as any "real" car alarm. I didn't install it though :D Came with the car. Your idea is very good though - basically does the same thing. You could probably make money out of that doing it for people.	wratterus (105)
727306	2008-12-11 19:48:00	An alarm with no monitoring is not an alarm. :illogical If your friend cannot afford the expense of a firm monitoring the alarm, why does she not monitor it herself? When you have a firm monitor your alarm and the alarm detects an intruder, it dials the firm to alert them to alert you. Why not cut out the middle man and have the alarm dial your mobile? Much cheaper! I am in two minds about monitored alarms. The question to be asked is how good in the alarm monitoring company with response times etc. Remember your neigbours are closer, I do agree that you should get a dialler put on the alarm to call your cellphone. But remember an monitored alarm only tells someone somewhere that the alarm has been set off it won't stop Mr Bad guy from robbing your place. The window stickers and alarm box on the outside should make them think twice. And if they do break in then the noise and lights should scare them away. If you do decide to get monitoring done by a company get them to connect some smoke detectors up to the system, Now that is better use for monitoring I say.	wmoore (6009)
727307	2008-12-11 20:44:00	The window stickers and alarm box on the outside should make them think twice. And if they do break in then the noise and lights should scare them away. If you do decide to get monitoring done by a company get them to connect some smoke detectors up to the system, Now that is better use for monitoring I say. Unfortunately burglars these days realise that noisy alarms are just a nuisance and part of the job. It does not always scare them off. They know that, because of the many false alarms, most people tend to ignore noisy alarms. I have heard of burglars clearing out a house with the alarm blaring. I was also told of thieves removing the expensive stereo in a busy car park with the car alarm sounding. Apparently no-one gave it a second look, mainly because car alarms go off all day every day. Definitely install smoke detectors with the system. At least the monitoring firm will call the fire brigade.:thumbs:	Roscoe (6288)
727308	2008-12-11 21:04:00	Unfortunately burglars these days realise that noisy alarms are just a nuisance and part of the job. It does not always scare them off. They know that, because of the many false alarms, most people tend to ignore noisy alarms. I have heard of burglars clearing out a house with the alarm blaring. I was also told of thieves removing the expensive stereo in a busy car park with the car alarm sounding. Apparently no-one gave it a second look, mainly because car alarms go off all day every day. Definitely install smoke detectors with the system. At least the monitoring firm will call the fire brigade.:thumbs: So is there any point in installing an alarm. I think making your house less of a target and installing good deadlocks should be on top of your list.	wmoore (6009)
727309	2008-12-11 21:35:00	I think making your house less of a target and installing good deadlocks should be on top of your list. Very sensible. Your first defence should, of course, be a secure house. We not only have deadlocks on our main doors, we also have locks on the french doors that require a special key which I do not think any burglars carry. Once they are inside, they need to be able to open the doors from the inside so they can remove their loot. Making it difficult to open from the inside is as important to making it difficult from the outside. If you decide not to install a monitored alarm, at least obtain some stickers to put on doors and windows stating that your (non-existent) alarm is monitored. It seems that the cops are of the opinion that if the burglars think your property has an alarm, they might move onto a house that does not. Burglars are basically lazy, they say, and do not want to attempt a property with an alarm. Don't buy "these premises are alarmed" stickers from the local store - too vague - but make a copy of the real thing. Much more convincing.	Roscoe (6288)
727310	2008-12-11 22:29:00	Very sensible. Your first defence should, of course, be a secure house. We not only have deadlocks on our main doors, we also have locks on the french doors that require a special key which I do not think any burglars carry. Once they are inside, they need to be able to open the doors from the inside so they can remove their loot. Making it difficult to open from the inside is as important to making it difficult from the outside. If you decide not to install a monitored alarm, at least obtain some stickers to put on doors and windows stating that your (non-existent) alarm is monitored. It seems that the cops are of the opinion that if the burglars think your property has an alarm, they might move onto a house that does not. Burglars are basically lazy, they say, and do not want to attempt a property with an alarm. Don't buy "these premises are alarmed" stickers from the local store - too vague - but make a copy of the real thing. Much more convincing. :clap Good post agree totally	wmoore (6009)
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