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| Thread ID: 95585 | 2008-12-11 01:13:00 | Manual or Automatic | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 727690 | 2008-12-17 03:57:00 | Performance-wise and fuel economy-wise, the autos far out perform the manuals now. I don't agree with this either...from experience. Perhaps its a little different in the States, with driving conditions (freeway for example) simply not existing in NZ. We probably do a lot more braking and accelerating than you guys would... |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 727691 | 2008-12-17 04:07:00 | We're talking about modern autos. What was the vintage of the last auto you're basing this on Wratty? |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 727692 | 2008-12-17 04:57:00 | With Auto's you do loose a percentage of performance and they are not as fuel efficient as manuals which is well known, but the gap has closed over the years. Many late model cars Auto's now come with a variant of Tiptronic(BMW is Steptronic, Honda is Active Select). Until recently I used to think Tiptronic was a gimmick and had driven a few short distances over the years and rubbished those who thought it was useful. But recently I drove a Tiptronic Mazda Atenza (JDM Mazda 6) from Auckland to CHCH and found how incredibly useful the Tiptronic changes were especially around hills and winding roads, basically 'I got it'. So I would suggest people who like manual but thinking about making a change get some sort of Tiptronic transmission vehicle or at least give them a decent chance before writing off auto's completely, if you are a performance purest however you will always get more out of a true manual at the expense of having to constantly change around town. |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 727693 | 2008-12-17 05:59:00 | It is ok to let the car automatically open and close the valves, pump the gas in, and shoot the odd spark into the innards, but gear changing is something I can handle without breaking into a sweat. I want to have some say in the action other than throwing money at the beast. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 727694 | 2008-12-17 07:05:00 | Very true, R2x1. Gear changing is not difficult, but then many people seem to have a problem with changing gears, particularly around town, it seems. I too wish to have a say in the action which is why I will continue to buy a manual for as long as they are available. |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 727695 | 2008-12-18 05:11:00 | A modern (post 1995 or so) automatic will only use 1-2% more power than it's manual counterpart until it goes into TCC and OD, then it's all over the manual for performance and power. In some cases the automatics are actually MORE efficient. Then there are CVT's which are vastly more efficient than manuals. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 727696 | 2008-12-18 05:17:00 | Then there are CVT's which are vastly more efficient than manuals. They won't have heard of these Joey. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 727697 | 2008-12-18 06:48:00 | Yeah I'm with you Joey too. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 727698 | 2008-12-18 19:57:00 | Now we can get to the REAL discussion: Windows v Linux. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 727699 | 2008-12-18 20:03:00 | We're talking about modern autos. What was the vintage of the last auto you're basing this on Wratty? 2003? 1993 Nissan Bluebird manual vs Nissan Altima auto 2003 I think - 2 litre vs 2.5 - fair enough, but the difference was huge - from Nelson to Chch, Bluebird was getting over 35mpg - Altima was under 30. Possibly the Altima driver had a heavier foot than me though. |
wratterus (105) | ||
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