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| Thread ID: 95585 | 2008-12-11 01:13:00 | Manual or Automatic | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 727730 | 2008-12-21 20:15:00 | I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and say that SJ knows more than the rest of us combined on the subject. Would those flat-worlders and seance believers kindly bow to his greater knowledge on the subject? There's only so far that uneducated speculation and massively outdated hearsay will take you. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 727731 | 2008-12-21 20:50:00 | I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and say that SJ knows more than the rest of us combined on the subject. Would those flat-worlders and seance believers kindly bow to his greater knowledge on the subject? There's only so far that uneducated speculation and massively outdated hearsay will take you. BUT........................ I cannot get Linux to run on anything I own! It eludes me. :lol::badpc::mad::crying I allude to illusory delusion. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 727732 | 2008-12-21 21:03:00 | BUT........................ I cannot get Linux to run on anything I own! It eludes me. :lol::badpc::mad::crying I allude to illusory delusion. Thats interesting,why would you want to,it's for the geeks,the rest us prefer Bills handy work,he leaves that lot for dead. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 727733 | 2008-12-21 21:47:00 | I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and say that SJ knows more than the rest of us combined on the subject. Actually, SJ's credibility has just slumped a trifle with me, and it was the inferred currency of his reference to British engines that did it. The engines he mentions were very 'last century' in fact the Brits haven't made engines like that for around 20 or more years, if in fact they have genuinely designed and manufactured any mainstream donk at all since then. Mind you, mechanics had no reason to complain about them, every street corner had a workshop capable of rebuilding engines and gearboxes etc. Just about everything now is Japanese or of other Asian origins that mostly run their full lifespan without needing anything done to them beyond routine servicing, with a modest number of European efforts and a few US V8s thrown in for good measure to help keep the trade alive. He's not wrong on the quality though, the electronics company I worked for in the mid 70's used Ford Escort vans and we kept a complete spare engine in our store so that we could get any vehicle with terminal heart disease back on the road in a matter of hours. British electronics was no better either, the most appalling rubbish I've ever seen, next to the US junk. The Asian manufacturers swept both purveyors of unmitigated crap off the market virtually overnight. Incidentally, IMHO any auto transmission that needs a rebuild in within the normal working life of a passenger vehicle sounds of very suspect quality to me. Not since I hashed a racing gear change in my 100E Ford Van :lol: and totally lunched the box have I ever needed to have any manual gearbox repaired despite running a full lifespan of K's and working them very hard. On the other hand, my only foray into autos had a GM 3-speed auto that insisted it was a two-speed and refused to bring the missing cogs out on a regular basis unless the month had a Z in its name. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 727734 | 2008-12-21 22:05:00 | 100E van now thats rare, was called a Squire I think. Last time I saw one was in 80s in Mombassa. In my opinion SJ is blinding us with bull s@#$%, we see so much text we think he knows what he talking about. He shoudnt slang off about things we are experts on and he isnt and I am talking about British cars. What country is more British than Britain? NZ of course. Sure you yanks might have beaten us in the Continental wars but no need to stick boot in about our cars. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 727735 | 2008-12-21 22:13:00 | It is difficult to get a yank or a Brit to admit the japs are responsible for making cars the way they are today.(Brilliant) The yanks used to make very good big engines years ago,but have been unable to move into the 21st century,same as the Brits.Take our resident pom,Terry,he still lives in the 1920's and English car industry leaves a bit to be desired. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 727736 | 2008-12-21 22:37:00 | It is difficult to get a yank or a Brit to admit the japs are responsible for making cars the way they are today.(Brilliant) The yanks used to make very good big engines years ago,but have been unable to move into the 21st century,same as the Brits.Take our resident pom,Terry,he still lives in the 1920's and English car industry leaves a bit to be desired. You're right, but it's all thanks to Americans that the Japanese are the way they are today. Specifically W. Edwards Deming and Joseph M. Juran. Now that came back to bite them... |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 727737 | 2008-12-21 22:57:00 | You're right, but it's all thanks to Americans that the Japanese are the way they are today. Specifically W. Edwards Deming and Joseph M. Juran. Now that came back to bite them... The fact is the yanks had access to Deming,but did nothing,the japs mind set was right. The English had all the good ideas and did nothing.Thanks I would say to zqwerts mates,the commo unions. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 727738 | 2008-12-22 02:02:00 | Reminds me of a story . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Enter the Japanese and their vastly superior abilities in things mechanical . One of their first forays into automatic transmissions had the Rising Sons attempt to re-design the venerable cast-iron PowerGlide (2-speed) automatic transmission by Chevrolet . Upon taking one apart, they marveled at the crudeness of the machine work; the gross sprue holes in the castings and generally the poor quality in the innards that would make Hirohito's ghost spin 'round in his silk undies . Knowing that Americans are crude and belligerent butter-eating braggarts, they smoothed up this; radiused that; tinkered with another and generally made the insides shine and look like a Swiss watch . It wouldn't work . It wouldn't move . It couldn't propel a vehicle . It was too finely machined . What they failed to consider was that in all it's ineptitude, the transmission wasn't a showcase to be ogled for it's innards and spin-y things and moving objects; it needed controlled leakage to make it work . After beating up the finely machined surfaces with a hammer, begorra! It worked! Now . . about UK alloys: They generally suck as bad as German plastic dashboards . Have you ever taken a head off a straight-six Jaguar XKE? Have you ever rethreaded the cases on an AJS because ALL the bolts twisted off? Have you ever had the rear suspension fall off a Norton Commando because the welds failed? Have you ever rebuilt (successfully) a Solex carburetor? Have you ever synchronized a pair of Amal carbs? Really? Have you ever gotte a pair of SU-sidedraft carbs to work? At the same time? On the same engine? Have you ever located the shorted-out cotton-coated wire that was making the magneto fail on a Royal Enfield? Have you ever had to heliarc and re-thread the head on an Austin when the spark plug removed the threads? Have you ever rebuilt a transmission in a TR7a? TR6? TR3? TR2? TR1? Have you ever wondered what level of acute alcoholism it was that had someone create a sports car with a wooden frame? (Does Morgan come to mind?) . Have you ever changed the clutch in a Bug-Eyed Sprite? Have you ever sealed the transmission on a BSA 650 Gold Star? Successfully? For more than 20 kliks? Do you know where a "prysing bar" should really go? I have . . . all of those things! Well, I'm sure that now I would know where the bar goes, but that's moot now as I don't yearn to get that dirty and play with antiques much more . C'mon! I like Japanese cars, even own one of them, of course with a generous dose of GM engineering in it, but hey - that's MY boat that's floating here . The time I spent in the trenches (47+ years!) as the ONLY UK/French/Italian/German line mechanic in a shop that worked on everything and anything, taught me one thing: I worked on them all and quite frankly, they all fail to "motate" some day . Ya can't make me mad slapping me in the face with money . But . . . yes . . the Brits don't make cars like that any more . . thank-you Queenie! I could talk about Fiats, Renaults and Peugeots too, but this UK-topic seems to have the goat of someone who shall remain nameless for the nonce! |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 727739 | 2008-12-22 03:23:00 | Okay, just going to say, my cars back in business after a oil top up and a few ckecks on compression etc..... I overheated the car, but this Buick motor is bullet proof.......i will never get an alloy motor thats for sure...... |
SolMiester (139) | ||
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