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Thread ID: 95550	2008-12-10 02:19:00	Australian Car Auctions	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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727316	2008-12-10 02:19:00	Just watched news on the car auctions in Australia, and it's getting a little sketchy there . Half-priced sales of things like Land Rovers and BMWs and such, and some new car dealers offering 30% off the below-book prices on cars on the showrooms . It's been that way here for over a year and I guess my prognostication of things US causing all sorts of impact on the rest of the world are holding water . Sorry for being the bellwether here . This is just the beginning of what's going to go to food shortages and riots in the streets soon . Cars and homes are all being gobbled up by those with some money; gold is being sold for bid-face value and the CEOs are all being held up to derision as suckers on the mammary of the general public tax payer . Bail-outs are just giving a heroin addict a fix, and it won't last long until the belly up to Congress to get another hypodermic full . There have been reports of US-Midwestern farms and small chicken ranches being robbed and even the farmers beaten for their livestock,which the cops find slaughtered a little down the road and all the edible parts missing . Wait until there's more hunger, as food is a greater motivator; more so than a new car or a big house .	SurferJoe46 (51)
727317	2008-12-10 13:10:00	There are several factors affecting the car industry in Australia. Firstly the Aussie car manufacturers continue to ,manufacture and try and market cars that the public don't want to buy - Why? - too big and too thirsty at the current cost of gas. Secondly the average Aussie has been carrying more debt for years that is really prudent, and the current credit crunch has been a wake-up call that most Aussies can't ignore, especially since the job market is going soft at a frightening rate, and economic insecurity is something that an increasing percentage of the population is facing. And for the Automotive dealerships, the two biggest funders of Dealer floor stock are getting out of the business and asking for their money back more or less immediately. One GM dealer in Victoria had their new floor stock auctioned off at an average loss of over $4000 below cost - a fair few dealers round the country are on the verge of shutting down. Plenty of bargains round for the lucky few with cash.	KenESmith (6287)
727318	2008-12-10 17:46:00	I wonder what the laws are and the costs involved in buying something in Aussie and getting it to NZ. A lot more choice over there than we have here.	Bantu (52)
727319	2008-12-10 21:21:00	There is no problem buying a car in Australia and shipping it to NZ, It should comply fully with NZ vehicle standards so no problem with compliance. You would be liable for NZ GST. Remember that $A1.00 = $NZ1.20, and it costs about $1200 to ship it across the ditch The problem would be getting a refund of the 10% Australian GST, plus any import duty if you selected an imported car - that is the only cost issue you would need to sort out. Good range of cars in Oz, just don't buy something here that would be an orphan in NZ. Example - The Honda Accord Euro is as good as a BMW 3 series at half the cost but I don't think that model is available in NZ. brilliant car uses premium fuel, handles like a dream and great performance	KenESmith (6287)
727320	2008-12-10 23:13:00	Cars in recent decades are more expensive in Aussie than NZ due to higher tarrifs to protect that usless manufacture that is Holden. Several months ago when I was in the market and checked across the ditch that was 'still' the case at least with imported Japanese Vehicles. Add in the exchange rate, shipping and import duties and there is no way its cheaper to bring one in from Aussie. NZ is cheaper for Japanese imports even forgetting exchange rates dollar for dollar.. The Honda Accord Euro's are available in NZ as imports and new, however the Mazda 6 is generally reviewed as better. I don't believe there is much more choice in Australia.	Battleneter2 (9361)
727321	2008-12-11 01:23:00	It was a 4WD customised Off Roader i was considering when I wrote the msg above.	Bantu (52)
727322	2008-12-11 01:59:00	Doesn't NZ "gray-market" cars? The US allows persons to vacation in Europe in a car they bought there and as long as it has over 3,000 miles on it, they can then import it with very few fees into the US. There are limits; the person may import only one car a year and the vehicle has to have been new in Europe markets when they went on vacation or whatever reason they went to Europe for to bring the car back.	SurferJoe46 (51)
727323	2008-12-11 07:11:00	In the "good old days" the USA sourced vehicles enjoyed "most favoured nation" status for customs purposes. That entitled them to come in with a (from memory) 125% duty rate. Austins and other rejects from poverty Rock were taxed at 30 odd %, but it still took import licensing to force Kiwis into buying English cars. When the import duties on cars vanished, English cars vanished too. We all sprang into Japanese cars with lights and no oil leaks. :D	R2x1 (4628)
727324	2008-12-11 07:56:00	No problem with Japanese cars, however there are Japanese cars made in Japan, and Japanese cars made with cheap labour in Thailand etc, Honda uses as a marketing point that the Accord Euro is made in Japan - Is there a message in this?	KenESmith (6287)
727325	2009-01-01 08:51:00	There was a reason for lower tarrifs on English cars . We are as a population mainly descended from England with a few wild scots, irish and welsh thrown in . Buying English did cause us some probs a few years ago when we got RR RB211 engines for our 747 . The RB211 had a minor teething problem consisting of its tendency to throw fan blades . . Remember some dude here saying in 1939 where England goes we go in fact due to time zones we declared war on Germany before England . English cars served us well here especially after WW2 and we should be gratefull that we didn't have yank tanks everywhere like Cuba . I raise a glass to the good ol cars like the Hunter, Viva, Anglia, Oxford, Marina etc you did us proud . And SJ would never have seen one	prefect (6291)
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