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Thread ID: 95934 2008-12-22 00:30:00 The Grass is Greener................... pctek (84) PC World Chat
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731599 2008-12-22 00:30:00 Todays news:

The exodus of migrants to Australia hit a record in the past year, while tourist numbers from north Asia are slumping badly because of the global economic slowdown.

In the past 12 months, 35,300 or almost 100 people a day have left for Australia. That is the biggest flood on record and higher than the previous peaks after the 1987 sharemarket crash or in the late 1970s.


AUssie News:

news.ninemsn.com.au

Australia has experienced its biggest annual exodus on record with 76,923 people leaving the country permanently in 2007-08, a new report shows.

And it appears the skills crisis is only set to worsen with the report showing almost half of those who left Australia permanently were in skilled jobs.

A further 102,066 Australian residents left the country for a year or more with more than 55 per cent in professional occupations or trades, the Emigration 2007-2008 report shows.

The exodus in 2007-08 represents a 6.7 per cent increase on the previous year and a 325 per cent increase on the low of 18,100 people who left permanently in 1985-86.

The main countries of intended residence for all permanent departures were New Zealand (18.4 per cent), the United Kingdom (17.8 per cent), the United States (9.3 per cent), Hong Kong (7.2 per cent) and Singapore (6.4 per cent).

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Australia is an exceptionally expensive place to live. Australians are taxed much more and pay more for everything. You dont realise until you leave.
So I left for two reasons. I left because of a lack of interesting opportunities and because I just wanted a better deal. And I can tell you...even after nearly three months here that nearly everything is cheaper here. Tax is waaayyyy less. Food, retail items, cars, petrol....its all cheaper here....Im loving it! :)
pctek (84)
731600 2008-12-22 00:57:00 Biggest problem with living in Australia I have found is Australians.
And snakes
prefect (6291)
731601 2008-12-22 01:05:00 .... and flies.... Scouse (83)
731602 2008-12-22 09:44:00 Why is it never mentioned that the NZ to OZ and reverse moves are partially because of the reciprocal agreement....no visa/work permit etc. required.
The only advantage I would gain from taking NZ citizenship is that of being freely able to visit Oz.....if you call that an advantage!

Martynz
martynz (5445)
731603 2008-12-22 09:55:00 If you would only take citizenship to be able to move to oz, then you are not a Kiwi and by your selfish attitude never will be. Where where is your pride in your country of residence?
Good thing about residents though is they can be deported at governor generals pleasure.
prefect (6291)
731604 2008-12-22 17:24:00 Pctek

Your first post was interesting.

What you are saying (I think) is that although lots of people left NZ last year (and moist years), mainly for Australia, - lots of people also left Australia !

Whilst that might sound encouraging to NZ, the thing is the number of people leaving Australia is far less percentage wise, so it is a big worry for us, but not for them, and how many people arrived in Australia last year ?

People will always move around - promotions, job posting, family reasons etc.

But a country like NZ cannot continue to lose people (good people) at the rate it has/is.
Digby (677)
731605 2008-12-22 17:46:00 I agree with Prefect for once. I took citizenship because I want to live here not because I want to go to Australia, it was a big thing for me changing from permanent resident to citizen, all I gained was the right to move to OZ if I wanted to but it gives me pride to call NZ my home and to know I'm a citizen of NZ gary67 (56)
731606 2008-12-22 19:09:00 I agree with Prefect for once. I took citizenship because I want to live here not because I want to go to Australia, it was a big thing for me changing from permanent resident to citizen, all I gained was the right to move to OZ if I wanted to but it gives me pride to call NZ my home and to know I'm a citizen of NZ

Do you use a NZ passport of still your original one like most Poms who have come to live here..??
paulw (1826)
731607 2008-12-22 19:33:00 Some of you guys need to get a sense of humour and/or read posts thoroughly.
I said "The only advantage I would gain from taking NZ citizenship is that of being freely able to visit Oz.....if you call that an advantage!"

Martynz
martynz (5445)
731608 2008-12-23 00:23:00 I think if a closer look was taken at the skill-level of NZers moving to Australia you'd find a high percentage of unskilled workers.
Like in the movie the Grapes of Wrath, you have a bunch of uneducated Okies moving to California to pick oranges.
Quite simply NZ's job market is too small to absorb 100% of unskilled workers whereas Australia's economy is 7-8 times the size of ours and always will be if the population ratios between NZ and Australia remain the same.
supersi (8401)
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