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Thread ID: 105899 2009-12-18 02:54:00 Help me understand the Southern Cross Cable Chilling_Silence (9) Press F1
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840682 2009-12-18 03:59:00 ...but surely if *I* know this, then Steven Joyce (ICT Minister) should also be aware of this ... ? Chilling_Silence (9)
840683 2009-12-18 04:15:00 Perhaps He may have some hidden agenda?
FTTH is a waste of resources IMHO, a decent
number of alternatives seem to exist to me.
VDSL, cable etc. The dosh would be better spent
on another link, surely?
KarameaDave (15222)
840684 2009-12-18 04:24:00 But did no person read the article CS linked to?

Down the bottom it says that SCC will increase the capacity to 1.24 Terabits per second next year. It also says that the current cable is fully paid for.
Sweep (90)
840685 2009-12-18 06:34:00 And that's why I'm of the opinion the Govt is better off spending money to upgrade the international circuits than on making another fibre backbone across NZ. However, I may still be misinformed...

Agreed.

There's no point upgrading the national capacity of NZ, when most of our data comes from overseas, and it's too expensive at the moment to purchase international bandwidth. There's plenty of capacity on the Southern Cross cable (which takes two routes to the USA for redundancy purposes), it's just too expensive.

Running our own cable to the USA would mean we could grab the traffic directly from the States, from within the States, and negotiate bandwidth with the big players without having to pay heavy 3rd transit fees.

/all my 2cents.
nate (15033)
840686 2009-12-18 07:11:00 ...but surely if *I* know this, then Steven Joyce (ICT Minister) should also be aware of this ... ?

No - remember a while back when Telecom's DNS servers went down and prevented most of their customers accessing the Web? (both servers were on the same UPS)

There should have been heads rolling, but Telecom wriggled off the hook and blamed it all on Vector.
There was NO-ONE in government or the news media who had enough knowledge to challenge them over this.
decibel (11645)
840687 2009-12-18 07:16:00 Running our own cable to the USA would mean we could grab the traffic directly from the States, from within the States, and negotiate bandwidth with the big players without having to pay heavy 3rd transit fees.

/all my 2cents.

We don't even need to run a cable all the way - Hawaii is sufficient.

There are plenty of cables/competition from Hawaii to California; it is just from Auckland to Hawaii where there is only one cable with consequently higher prices.
decibel (11645)
840688 2009-12-18 08:58:00 Any idea how much of that 780gbps is utilized or sold out? Chilling_Silence (9)
840689 2009-12-18 08:59:00 Ah but as of now that's the only *main* way to get data into NZ?

There are other routes via Australia which then go to hubs in Asia, before linking to the USA. These still rely on the SCC link between NZ and Aus though.

In terms of capacity, they are always quite cagey about revealing exact numbers, but the last time I spoke to someone in the industry they said it was at about 2/3rds of capacity.
somebody (208)
840690 2009-12-18 09:09:00 I wonder if that's "2/3 is in-use on a daily basis" or "2/3 has been rationed out and we've got 1/3 left that COULD be sold out" Chilling_Silence (9)
840691 2009-12-18 11:17:00 Not sure if this is quite on-topic but I think I remember national investing 1 billion into our broadband infrastructure, is this true and if so whats getting spent on what? PCT Joe (15018)
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