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Thread ID: 96441 2009-01-10 18:27:00 Windows 7 - Why bother ? Digby (677) PC World Chat
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737035 2009-01-10 18:27:00 Steve Ballmer's keynote speech

"But Windows 7 aims to resolve many problems PC users had with Vista. For instance, Microsoft pledges to make it easier to install peripheral devices and to have the software pump out fewer annoying warnings and notifications."

That does not sound like a new OS to me !

Where are the new features ?

Is the kernel smaller ?

Sounds more like a Vista SP to me.
Digby (677)
737036 2009-01-10 18:35:00 Early indications suggest that it's much faster than Vista, and has had a lot of UI features added which wouldn't typically be in a SP. somebody (208)
737037 2009-01-10 18:58:00 I disagree about more speed etc .

Preliminary results are that it is somewhat slower since it's also moribund with code like all it's predecessors . I think I posted an article on the speed - or LACK of speed problems - with it .

< edit > I found it:


-- Attempts to upgrade from XP were met by a warning that: "To upgrade to Windows 7, the computer needs to be running Vista with Service Pack 1 (SP1) or later . Upgrading from Windows XP to any edition of Windows 7 is not supported;"

-- On the same PC test bed, performance measured by Primate Labs' Geekbench 2 . 1 benchmarking software indicates that performance deteriorates slightly on the same PC from Windows XP to Windows Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate;

-- Once Vista SP1 is installed and running, the upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate took an hour and 16 minutes . It is an extremely smooth upgrade -- something that could be a relief to a channel and a market that suffered extreme headaches in trying to go from XP to Vista . Compared to complaints from the market during previous OS upgrades, Vista-to-Windows 7 is a breeze, introduces subtle-but-nice interface changes and provides refreshingly strong support for several basic drivers and applications .

Our test bed was built with an AMD (NYSE:AMD) Phenom 9550 Quad-Core processor at 2 . 20GHz, 4 GB of RAM, an Nvidia (NSDQ:NVDA) 6100 nForce 4300 card . In our upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate, we included, among other applications, Firefox 3 . 0,Google (NSDQ: GOOG) Chrome and Safari browsers; Microsoft Office 2007; WordPerfect Office X4; Skype; the Digsby IM client; a FireFox plug-in, Ubiquity; and a new, free application made available this week, from Tech Smith, called "Jing," which provides for image and video desktop screen captures . Adobe Flash player was also on the Vista system .
SurferJoe46 (51)
737038 2009-01-10 19:06:00 I disagree about more speed etc .

Preliminary results are that it is somewhat slower since it's also moribund with code like all it's predecessors . I think I posted an article on the speed - or LACK of speed problems - with it .

< edit > I found it:

. zdnet . com/hardware/?p=3236&page=2" target="_blank">blogs . zdnet . com
somebody (208)
737039 2009-01-10 19:21:00 I'll wait for the full release before deciding whether to upgrade from XP as all these betas aren't the full release how can you be 100% certain the final will be like the beta gary67 (56)
737040 2009-01-10 20:07:00 Yup, sounds like SP2 was for XP, just a big patch with the security center and things, many fixes ...

Will be sticking with my XP / Linux wherever possible :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
737041 2009-01-10 21:10:00 There are a lot of changes to the UI - tidying up stuff which was never "vista-fied" properly. The Control Panel and various aspects of system-related "stuff" has been made more consistent with the rest of the OS, and (in theory) made easier to use. somebody (208)
737042 2009-01-10 21:22:00 Have any of you Vista-haters used Vista or 7 as your main OS for more than a day?

Might be time for a second look :)
jwil1 (65)
737043 2009-01-10 21:26:00 No hurry - Vista is working just fine for me and we're even getting it at work shortly as well. Still have one old PC on XP but like the PC, it looks a bit old and tired these days. I'm sure I'll go out and get 7 when it comes out, never understood this desire to stay with the old, always want to try the new stuff myself. Twelvevolts (5457)
737044 2009-01-10 21:39:00 No I couldn't be bothered to upgrade from XP as it does everything I need it to do and why would I spend money just to upgrade when I don't need to. I have used Vista on other machines and yes it's nice to look at and use but it didn't offer me anything that I don't already have. I will check out 7 when I get the chance but it will need to be significantly better than XP to make me spend the money before XP is discontinued with support and then I might switch full time to Linux gary67 (56)
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