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Thread ID: 96299 2009-01-05 22:50:00 telephone wiring gum digger (6100) PC World Chat
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735283 2009-01-05 22:50:00 hi
i was wondering if anyone knows someone who can fix faulty telephone sockets on the wall, may need to replace them. also i need to get adsl splitter put up so i get a line just for broadband.

thanks..
gum digger (6100)
735284 2009-01-05 23:51:00 What makes you think that they are faulty? Can you tell me what is happening?

Today's telephone jacks are relatively simple and you should not have too many problems as there is very little to go wrong.

One of the main problems is the result of them being installed on an outside wall - they tend to absorb moisture through the wall and after a while turn a delightful green colour.

Apart from that and the occasional wire that becomes dislodged I can't think of too much that could go wrong.

So if you can supply some detail I should be able to help.
Roscoe (6288)
735285 2009-01-05 23:54:00 Where abouts are you in NZ?

What's wrong with the phone sockets?

You can get the master ADSL splitters from any electrical wholesaler and shouldn't be more than about $70-$80.
CYaBro (73)
735286 2009-01-05 23:59:00 What makes you think that they are faulty? Can you tell me what is happening?

Today's telephone jacks are relatively simple and you should not have too many problems as there is very little to go wrong.

One of the main problems is the result of them being installed on an outside wall - they tend to absorb moisture through the wall and after a while turn a delightful green colour.

Apart from that and the occasional wire that becomes dislodged I can't think of too much that could go wrong.

So if you can supply some detail I should be able to help.

yes. the sockets have definatly absorbed moisture as the insides are green/blue colours. my house is about 40 years old i dont how good the wiring is. i also wanted to fit few sockets in other rooms. i dont want to call telecom because they charge too much for simple things.
gum digger (6100)
735287 2009-01-06 00:18:00 Coincidence! I asked a telecom bloke working on the Green Street Box outside our house what it would cost to put in another jackpoint. telecom...$160. private abt $100. Bye bye. PJ:crying Poppa John (284)
735288 2009-01-06 00:34:00 yes. the sockets have definatly absorbed moisture as the insides are green/blue colours. my house is about 40 years old i dont how good the wiring is. i also wanted to fit few sockets in other rooms. i dont want to call telecom because they charge too much for simple things.

Easiest thing to do is throw them as far as you can and replace them. Before you disconnect, note where each wire is connected so you replace them in the same place. (The fact that your house is 40 years old does not mean that the jacks have been there that long. The present type of jacks have only been in use for about 25 years. They are known as "BT" jacks as they originally were imported from England, hence British Telecom.)

If the jacks are on an outside wall see if you can move them to an inside wall.

Should not be too much wrong with the wiring. The only place where faults occour is where wiring is joined. If telecom installed them there should not be any joints and so no potential faults.

Easy enough to install in other rooms. Simply wire them all the same as the jacks you have and wire them in parallel, not series.

Replacements can be bought from shops such as Dick Smith. There are two types, primary and secondary. You require the latter. If, for some silly reason, they do not have secondary, primary will do at a pinch, but you should really use secondary.

The way to tell the difference is the primary has a capacitor, the secondary does not. You really only need one capacitor in the circuit.

There should be a small plastic tool that comes with the jack. Use that, and nothing else, to push the wire into place. Strip the end of the wire first.

If you are in Auckland and need some help, please ask. Only too happy to help.
Roscoe (6288)
735289 2009-01-06 02:32:00 Easiest thing to do is throw them as far as you can and replace them. Before you disconnect, note where each wire is connected so you replace them in the same place. (The fact that your house is 40 years old does not mean that the jacks have been there that long. The present type of jacks have only been in use for about 25 years. They are known as "BT" jacks as they originally were imported from England, hence British Telecom.)

If the jacks are on an outside wall see if you can move them to an inside wall.

Should not be too much wrong with the wiring. The only place where faults occour is where wiring is joined. If telecom installed them there should not be any joints and so no potential faults.

Easy enough to install in other rooms. Simply wire them all the same as the jacks you have and wire them in parallel, not series.

Replacements can be bought from shops such as Dick Smith. There are two types, primary and secondary. You require the latter. If, for some silly reason, they do not have secondary, primary will do at a pinch, but you should really use secondary.

The way to tell the difference is the primary has a capacitor, the secondary does not. You really only need one capacitor in the circuit.

There should be a small plastic tool that comes with the jack. Use that, and nothing else, to push the wire into place. Strip the end of the wire first.

If you are in Auckland and need some help, please ask. Only too happy to help.

thanks for the info.
gum digger (6100)
735290 2009-01-06 03:16:00 Hey Gum are the sockets 2 or 3 wire? prefect (6291)
735291 2009-01-06 03:42:00 it's not too hard to DIY phone jacks, I did all the jacks in our house.

replace all jacks, replace any wire that looks very old or water damaged.
water damaged phone jacks is a big cause of faults.


before you start:
* decide where you need jacks.
* check how you will get cable runs to each jack.
* figure out how much cable you will need and add 20% (cable is cheep)
* never have joints in a cable run, get more cable if needed.
* take a digital photo of the wiring inside the primary box before you start.
* keep in mind that this can be a good time to run network cat6 cable too.


go shopping:
* 1 primary jack and as many secondry jacks as you need.
* ADSL filter if needed.
* length of phone cable.
* plastic push down tool, this will often come with the primary jack.
* any other tools you need, wire cutters, screwdrivers, drill bits, craft knife.
* cable clips, to keep cable tidy


doing to job:
* take your time.
* only use the plastic tool for pushing down the wire, any other tools will damage the connector.
* put 1 primary jack where the line comes into the house, then test.
* run cable to any other points you need.
* wire up secondary jacks one at a time and test each one as you are done.


clean up:
* make sure any cable under house or in roof is tidy and cliped on every few feet.
* if you have an ADSL jack then make sure to label it clearly.



last of all drink beer with $$ saved by DIY.
robsonde (120)
735292 2009-01-06 05:00:00 ...
Should not be too much wrong with the wiring. The only place where faults occour is where wiring is joined. If telecom installed them there should not be any joints and so no potential faults.

...HAHAHA! Are you kidding? Telecom guys do dodgy joins all the time.
pine-o-cleen (2955)
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