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| Thread ID: 96299 | 2009-01-05 22:50:00 | telephone wiring | gum digger (6100) | PC World Chat |
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| 735293 | 2009-01-06 09:32:00 | I wouldn't use telephone cable, it is still too lossy for dsl and is not up to it for ADSL-2. Several years ago I wired my house from the point of entry with CAT5E network cable which also let me network my computers and I've had top performance and reliability ever since. Telephone cable is always a compromise. Incidentally, nobody should be getting green/blue corrosion inside the phone outlets etc, if that is happening you have a major damp problem and a very unhealthy house and your rewiring won't last either. Plastic pushdown tools are total crap :yuck: and as they begin to wear out after just a few joints your connections will get progressively worse. Buy a good quality metal one, they are not expensive and are a very good investment. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 735294 | 2009-01-06 09:33:00 | . There are two types, primary and secondary . You require the latter . If, for some silly reason, they do not have secondary, primary will do at a pinch, but you should really use secondary . The way to tell the difference is the primary has a capacitor, the secondary does not . You really only need one capacitor in the circuit . I doubt if you can buy these "3-wire jacks" anymore as they should all be the newer "2-wire" system where there is only one type of jack and they all have a (smaller) capacitor . If you are going to do any changes, you should ditch ALL your existing 3w jacks and replace with new 2w jacks . The third "bell" wire is no longer required and should be left disconnected . If you have ADSL, removing the third wire will improve the balance of the line and give you better line speed . Make sure that you don't use a phone caddy or extension cable anywhere as this will re-introduce the third wire and upset the balance again . . Strip the end of the wire first . Not with the punch-down krone connectors - the actual connection is an insulation-displacement type and in addition the full insulation should be left on to give physical strain relief on either side of the electrical connection . |
decibel (11645) | ||
| 735295 | 2009-01-06 09:46:00 | Interesting to note, after reading the Telecom Code of Practice, that they now say that all new houses must be wired with CAT5e as a minimum. Cabling should be home run to a central location and all sockets should be RJ45 and not BT. This allows for the socket to be configured for phone or data by changing a cable at the central hub. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 735296 | 2009-01-06 09:54:00 | I wouldn't use telephone cable, it is still too lossy for dsl and is not up to it for ADSL-2. Yes, even Telecom has seen the error of their ways here - they are currently using "HomeLAN" - it's a two pair CAT 5e cable. Incidentally, nobody should be getting green/blue corrosion inside the phone outlets etc, if that is happening you have a major damp problem and a very unhealthy house and your rewiring won't last either. Unfortunately this is a fact of life here in NZ with a lot of damp homes. The change from 3-wire to 2-wire was mainly driven by the old jacks having 50 volts across adjacent pins and accelerating corrosion. The 2-wire jacks have the 50 volts only across pins 2 & 5. Plastic pushdown tools are total crap.... Buy a good quality metal one, they are not expensive and are a very good investment. Definitely a good idea. |
decibel (11645) | ||
| 735297 | 2009-01-06 11:49:00 | Wow, everyone loves DIY here. now my only trouble is where to get the equipments from. not much is on dse website, or i am not looking at right things. so i need a cat5 cable, primary jack & as many secondary jacks. btw i dont know which is the primary jack in my house. how to find out? |
gum digger (6100) | ||
| 735298 | 2009-01-06 21:14:00 | Wow, everyone loves DIY here. now my only trouble is where to get the equipments from. not much is on dse website, or i am not looking at right things. so i need a cat5 cable, primary jack & as many secondary jacks. btw i dont know which is the primary jack in my house. how to find out? open up a few jacks and look of the odd one out, it will be the primary. as for where to get equipment, try local hardware shop. |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 735299 | 2009-01-06 22:30:00 | Gum its easier than you think the hard part is crawling under the floor and drilling holes. Is that the part that worries you? or is it the wiring up? The BT jack points have nice instructions enclosed, forget cat5 too hard. Get some 2 wire phone wire from DSE. Start with pair that come in from road you dont need master box, just use boxes with the number 2 on them. You cant mix 2 and 3 wire jack points. The old 3 wire and capacitor is for the anti tingle circuit. Drilling down from the ceiling through the joists is difficult but surely you have a mate who knows an electrician they are good at it. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 735300 | 2009-01-07 10:07:00 | yes going under worries me so i went out today and got a new jack point. replaced it with the dirty jack and speeds are good. though i have started to notice the noisy ph line. i have filters in place but still its there, its not very much (only i have noticed it). modem sync speed is good. the downstream is 7296 and upstream is 160. saying this today i have not at all enjoyed surfing because most of the websites are taking a lot of time to load or they just say page cannot be found. i have to hit refresh few times for it to work. i have tried IE & firefox. | gum digger (6100) | ||
| 735301 | 2009-01-07 10:10:00 | there are some websites which dont load at all and end up saying page cannot be displayed, those same websites open up in other pcs in my house. they are connected to the same router. what would be the problem?. i have no firewalls | gum digger (6100) | ||
| 735302 | 2009-01-07 19:33:00 | Was the original jack point a 3 wire or 2 wire one? | prefect (6291) | ||
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