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Thread ID: 145979	2018-03-23 04:43:00	Friday and no water for the weekend ...	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1447588	2018-03-23 04:43:00	Woke up today and no hot water. Disconnected the hot water temperature panel and there was some hot water, saw white steam from the Rinnai infinity (instant gas) and then no hot water. Ok .. so it is Friday. Looking online for reviews. One won't be able to come till Monday and asked us to look for someone else. Someone else did come over. They opened up the unit and didn't say what has to be done and then said the gas pipe was not the right size and looked around our home. We were told nothing can be done right now and sometime next week and he will redo another visit with the boss to see what the solution can be. The previous owner had cylinder gas hot water with electrical cooking. There is a gas heater in the lounge and some floor gas taps but we don't use them - thickness etc ... dunno the house is what we bought it. When the cylinder broke we switched to instant gas (Rinnai) this was like 12yrs ago - a plumber/gas fiter did it. And sometime after that we switched the oven cook top to gas and a gas pipe to the Rinnai unit was installed for this - a different gas fitter did that. So ... do we need to get all the pipes replaced under and house and behind the walls or do we switch the oven back to electric and the water back to cylinder ... or could we just replace the Rinnai unit?	Nomad (952)
1447589	2018-03-23 06:06:00	Was the guy who came out today an actual registered gas installer? Or is his boss the one? All gas is normally run in 12mm soft copper.	gary67 (56)
1447590	2018-03-23 07:31:00	Was the guy who came out today an actual registered gas installer? Or is his boss the one? All gas is normally run in 12mm soft copper. No idea. He said the pipe isn't compliant.	Nomad (952)
1447591	2018-03-23 19:48:00	So ... do we need to get all the pipes replaced under and house and behind the walls or do we switch the oven back to electric and the water back to cylinder ... or could we just replace the Rinnai unit? Replace the unit would be cheaper. I wouldn't listen to the one who went on about the pipe. MOney making opportunity? Why hasn't it been an issue until now then? What has it got to do with the problem? get some more to come round.	piroska (17583)
1447592	2018-03-23 21:36:00	12 years old, I can only imagine the guy saw 15mm line when it probably should have been 20mm. That long ago, anything could have happened in favour of cutting costs and maximising profit, instead of doing the job properly. Anyways, unless the supply is starved, it's ran fine for 12 years so the issue probably lies else where.	Kame (312)
1447593	2018-03-24 01:13:00	I was told that the Rinnai systems generally last 10-20yrs anyway so it is within range. I read that low pressure systems might last longer. I am now told maybe it was a 2004 install. Not sure if the label on the unit itself is accurate but it says 2004. So 13-14yrs. I read that maybe the 20mm is what the rules say? I had a look at the gas pipe. The gas meter is at the front right of the house. The previous owner had the gas cylinder at the left side of the house and then we had a gasfitter to install the Rinnai instant gas unit at the same place. Looking at the gas pipes. The front left of the house is the internal access garage. The gas pipes run on the ceiling in the garage thru a cupboard and then probably between the ground floor and the first floor in the ceiling / underfloor. Where it comes out and just above the gas meter the previous owner put in a Conservatory extension build. So it is prob under the Conservatory's tile flooring etc. The previous owner also put in a gas heater in the lounge and a gas tap in the lounge and dining room and they put a gas pipe to the outside in the back where they have a BBQ machine. They're all 15mm. Through our contacts, we got a new unit fitted. When had a spare unit lying around in the garage which was quite cheap. But in terms of compliant ......	Nomad (952)
1447594	2018-03-24 01:40:00	Gas leaks can be fatal, like as in "boom", it is not worth trying to cut corners. Better to get an acredited fitter, and compliant fixtures, much safer. That said, when our area converted to natural gas in Leicester in the the 1960s I re-piped the house with reactor grade stainless pipe from English Electric, and 3000 psi aircraft fittings. When the gas fitters came to install new jets for the gas fires and stove, to suit natural gas, they were taken aback a little and said they couldn't do anything as good as that :) They checked all the joints and said all OK. They were still living in the "Boss white and string" era. www.topline.ie This could be a bit dodgy as old hemp and Boss white joints that had been used with town gas tended to dry out and leak with natural gas, as we found with the main inlet and outlet from the gas meter.	Terry Porritt (14)
1447595	2018-03-24 04:10:00	12 years old, I can only imagine the guy saw 15mm line when it probably should have been 20mm. . Oh yeah, like plumbing sizes....it doesn't matter you know.	piroska (17583)
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