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| Thread ID: 145941 | 2018-03-10 05:59:00 | Went Out & Bought A New Glock | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 1447200 | 2018-03-14 02:50:00 | See if you can get to view this guy: www.youtube.com He's in Montana where I live - but Bozeman is a long 'way from here. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1447201 | 2018-03-14 20:13:00 | When I first saw the heading for this post, I wondered if it was battery powered or mains powered, or even a sundial. PJ:devil | Poppa John (284) | ||
| 1447202 | 2018-03-15 01:32:00 | Bear powered. I've got as transmission to fix this week or I'd be out fishing. But you can be sure that next week is gonna be some trout calling me! |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1447203 | 2018-03-15 05:37:00 | Another typical american: www.nzherald.co.nz |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1447204 | 2018-03-15 05:59:00 | Another typical american: www.nzherald.co.nz Stuff happens. When I was a student at Motueka High boys were encouraged to get their gun licences My primary school was Ngatimoti all we boys talked about was guns and hunting. I guess the girls talked about sewing and knitting I dont know. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1447205 | 2018-03-27 03:21:00 | Makes you wonder . . . . are Americans all terrified all the time? I heard smashing one night, went out in my nightie to find the riff raff from over back in our back yard, looking for his dropped loot from his burglary of next door . Abuse was exchanged, he finally climbed over back and went in and cops came later . But in America: The noise startled Alexis Bukrym . she said . “There’s a lot of bad people in the whole world, and a lot of people think, ‘It’ll never be me . ’ But I’m cautious . ” Bukrym moved quickly . A 23-year-old living away from her parents’ house for the first time, she’d prepared herself for the possibility of danger . As the door opened, she reached under her pillow for her handgun, a Ruger LCP . 380, pointed it at the figure filling her doorframe, and pulled the trigger . The bullet struck the man in the chest, and as he collapsed, Bukrym got a look at his face for the first time . It was her roommate, Anthony Schwartz . Since 2015, at least 47 people have shot friends, loved ones, roommates, or emergency responders they said they’d mistaken for home intruders, killing 15, according to an analysis of US gun violence incidents by BuzzFeed News and the Trace . In at least 27 of those cases, criminal charges were dismissed or never filed because authorities deemed the shootings accidental, an act of self-defense in a moment of panic . For years, gun rights advocates have promoted the use of firearms by arguing that “to stop a bad guy with a gun, it takes a good guy with a gun,” a refrain National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre repeated in a speech in late February . In the days following the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida that left 17 dead and 14 wounded, President Donald Trump and others called on school districts to arm teachers for the safety of their students, an idea originally proposed by the NRA in 2012 after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut . But good guys with guns don’t only shoot bad guys with guns . The impulse to pull the trigger can overwhelm the need to accurately identify the target, leading to snap decisions that bring permanent tragedies . A 2016 survey by researchers at Harvard and Northeastern universities found that 63% of gun owners said that self-defense was a primary motivation for owning a firearm Derrick Fulton, of Grovetown, Georgia, awoke at 2:34 a . m . on Feb . 25, 2017, when he and his wife got an alert on their phones informing them the front door had been opened . Their teenage daughter had sneaked in her boyfriend, then hid him in a closet when she realized her parents were out of bed . When 17-year-old Jordan Middleton burst out and broke for the front door, Fulton shot him . “He shouldn’t have been in my house!” Fulton wailed into the phone . Middleton was dead by the time emergency responders arrived . In November 2016, Pauline Lloyd, 51 at the time, fatally shot her boyfriend, 50-year-old Kelvin Watford, inside their Trenton, New Jersey, home . She thought someone had broken in, she told the 911 dispatcher . Brandon Phillips, then 29, fatally shot his cousin Calem Copeland, a 24-year-old Army veteran, in October 2016 . Phillips told investigators that he fired when Copeland jumped out from around a corner to try to prank him, according to an incident report from the Toombs County, Georgia, sheriff’s office and the 911 call reporting the shooting . Harvey Benford, a 72-year-old living in Cincinnati fatally shot his 14-year-old son, Georta Mack, in the neck one morning in January 2016 . The boy had returned home to play hooky from school; Benford, startled to hear somebody in the house and pulled the trigger . . buzzfeed . com/albertsamaha/good-guys-with-guns-shoot-wrong-people-in-seconds-of-panic?utm_term= . cx0y9w7l6# . myeBm9ka8" target="_blank">www . buzzfeed . com |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1447206 | 2018-03-27 04:30:00 | www.snopes.com | fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1447207 | 2018-03-27 05:12:00 | Trenton, New Jersey; Cincinnati, Ohio; New York City, New York; - all have some of the strictest gun-ownership laws in many states of the union . It's so nearly impossible to have a concealable weapon (pistol) in those states that it makes me wonder if these people had legally obtained them and had the appropriate handgun training in the first place . Just popping a few tin cans and the occasional paper plate targets in the woods does NOT make a trained and intelligent (gun-wise) owner of a firearm . These people tend to shoot first then see who/whom/what they shot . Most times these neophytes miss entirely and they themselves get shot by an armed burglar or rapist, falling victim anyway to the thing they fear the most . Unlike city-to-city cops and police in most 'civilized' countries that have odious gun laws, the US is spread out so thin that any police assistance is apt to be more than an hour away --- if at all . As in Montana here - the local cops - the deputy sheriffs are responsible for miles and miles of service area . The Montana Highway Patrol has hundreds of miles between calls and their arrival is usually 'tomorrow' or 'around sunrise, tomorrow' if at all . If the weather is bad - it may take much longer for a response . So the necessity of having personal defense items, be they sticks, bats, rocks, firearms, pressure-cooker bombs, swords, knives and BB guns - as a defensive weapon - legal or other wise - becomes a consideration by some people since it's hard to rely upon the local gendarmes in a timely manner . But - alas - we have our mega-big cities too - and therein lies another problem - although it may not seem so on the surface of it . Big cities (NYC, LA, Boston, Cincinnati, Chicago, etc) all have overworked and spread-thin and care-less cops who are burned out by the 'civil rights' of people who proudly defy the police officer and then get shot for attitude (wrong, on oh so many levels, but totally understandable) . Yes - there is a pretty-much humongous breakdown of decency, law-abiding and civility toward others including the police . I daresay that this is not solely the ownership of the US - it is everywhere - even "God's Land" where youse guys live . I - personally - for whatever spiritual/ moral or otherwise non-bloodthirsty reason you can surmise about me - refuse to have my weapons armed and at the ready until I am out on the rivers, fishing in fairly pristine areas of the US . Bears live here - we see them in the city here - on the roads, in the fields, in our yards (both front and rear) and raiding our chicken coops and horse corrals, following the herds of elk, deer and bunny rabbits . My firearm possession is not to be used for humans against me . My ammo and firearms are separated by rooms from each other . I do not want to have blood guilt upon my heart and head because of a fearful and reckless shot at something that goes bump in the dark or accidentally knocks on my door . __________________________________________________ _________________ When I first got out of the US Navy - I applied to the Orange County Sheriff's Department - a very elite and heads-up police department in Orange County, Southern California . I passed all the test quite handily - including firearm safety and handling - but a day before the academy training was to start I went into the offices of the Director of The Orange County Sheriff's & Police Academy and told him that I did not want the life-or-death responsibility and had to drop out . He was most happy that I told him that, and when I did . He was glad that I didn't waste the taxpayer's money by going all the way through the academy and then quit . He thanked me profusely . I felt a lot better too . So - you see - not all in the US are a bunch of blood thirsty killers with handguns . I am not an exception - instead I am the voice of many humane, civil and otherwise law-abiding ones who/whom are not in the headlines of the daily stabs at the law, called: the newspapers and media . That possibly only 2% of the people in the world are truly nuts and want to destroy buildings with people in them (Timothy McVeigh*) - or wanting to create carnage in parking lots with motor vehicles vs . humans, or the Pressure Cooker Bombers in The Boston Marathon a while back, may indeed mean that there are more of them numerically - in the US because of sheer population . Two percent of a million people is a lot smaller numerically than two percent of fifty million . The ratios are the same - but the headcount is different . Take the recent news of the country of France - it has some extremely serious laws about firearm possession and yet - when there were shortages of firearms, someone drove a semi-truck through a crowd of people . Same of that at a bridge in London too . Lack of firearms by criminally intended people will not prevent them from creating carnage and death by front bumper if that's their necessary mode of dispatch . If there is to be a more logical argument about handguns and even firearms possession - than it might be something like this: 1 . Criminals, by their very name - are 'criminals' and do not obey the law . They will use whatever it is that they feel gives them the upper hand for whatever mode or weapon/tool for their gainful employment they choose at the moment . 2 . Law abiding citizens usually do obey the laws - and this may be a societal problem since there are 'degrees of the law that are obeyed and those that are not' as distinctively called a white lie verses a black one . These may be called: "Cheat on your taxes but don't speed" types . 3 . Most people will never see violence in the US - unless it's on the TV or newspapers/broadcasts . 4 . Gangs of illegal law-scoffers will always kill themselves and others that get in the way of their 'turf wars' - especially in the bigger, darker innards of the cities of the US . It seems to be in their DNA to self-inflict death and destruction on their own people . I dunnow about that, so I'll leave it at a gross statement - but that's what I see from my catbird seat . 5 . Drugs are a huge driving force of the underworld here in the US with open borders and overcrowded prisons that let the least-offenders out (those who only killed up to 10 people or less) and they try to keep the hardened unlikely-to-be-rehabilitated criminals in lockup for eternity . 6 . The death sentence - in the law and on the books of most states - is/are never enforced, instead letting career murders/rapists/body-hackers to rot away in cells the rest of their lives, drawing unemployment (get that!) and State & Federal Disability payments and Social Security all the time they are incarcerated! All this 'three hots and a cot' is at the taxpayers' expense . 7 . For a nation that is founded on a god-fearing (In God We Trust) nation founded upon a Christian-Judean Ethic that executes criminals and does not house them for eternity - it cannot measure up to it's own so-called Constitution of Law and god fearing-ness . But - YES and NO - I see your point and generally dismiss it as somewhat misinformed if not totally blinded by what you think you see and believe you understand --- but don't . Splashy, snobbish headlines do not speak the whole truth . They may be the smoke of a distant fire, but they are apt to blow with the currents of dismally inept laws that are in a new flux since the Millennials and Notchers are coming to power . They WANT --- but don't know how to go about getting IT so like in Mrs . Murphey's Chowder - they scream all the louder . Their hubris is mostly unwarranted and unwanted - but they are the next power kings and nay-sayers . Let 'em have it - I'm soon off this globe . * Timothy James McVeigh was an American domestic terrorist who perpetrated the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, which killed 168 people and injured over 680 others . . . . . . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1447208 | 2018-03-27 05:22:00 | www.snopes.com Just last month I interviewed a retire FBI agent who had been a VietNam officer in the US Marine Corps, and he told me that it took 86,000 bullets to create 1 kill or wounded to the enemy. That's a lot of bullets for any results against the enemy. I see no reason for him to 'improve' upon that factoid - but it caught me flat-footed. I mean - 86K bullets to just 1 KIA or 1Wounded? I think Snopes may be full of toddler excreta. Now - I once read where a dog shot his hunter/master out in the field one day. Good on 'em for that! Makes the herd a little smaller. I don't hunt---> but I am scared excreta-less about dogs with opposable thumbs. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1447209 | 2018-03-27 05:27:00 | I think you will find Joe its not that the rest of the world doesn't understand why you want guns, its more why you want guns that were intended for mass shootings during wars. I for one cannot understand why Americans want to own assault rifles but I do understand why you want to have hunting rifles the same as people do here. Its not mass gun control that's needed but control of certain types of gun. I see in the news today Remington has filed for bankruptcy citing falling sales so maybe the tide is turning slowly. |
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